America's six clauses to bind India

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Even before US President Barack Obama touched down in the country, away from the gaze of the cameras, a script was being written - to make Indian defence subservient to Pentagon. Talk in New Delhi’s defence circles - about a deal that - if through - would give the Americans unprecedented access to Indian defence forces and the communication systems for three services. Top secret documents that would be declassified only ten years from now - in 2020. Documents that show that the US is trying to force India into an agreement that our defence establishment does not need and does not want. The contention is the communications interoperability agreement. Part of this agreement - are six clauses that if India were to agree to - would be humiliating to say the least and completely under US control.

Article 5 of inter-operability agreement says that it will be the Indian defence ministry that shall bear the cost of reconfiguring the communications systems. More interestingly - India can only buy from the US Department of Defence. The other clause is in Article 6 of the agreement which says that the US Department of Defence shall provide defence support - subject to approval - which means - whenever it wants. Article 7 of this top secret agreement points to an effective takeover of our defence communications - since the clause says that it will be American officials who would be training Indian Govt personnel and also conducting inspections of the equipment given to India. Then clause number four - which is in Article 9 of the agreement - that says it will be only US army personnel who will have the right to access and inspect the equipment and material given to India.

Article 8, then goes on to say - that the Government of India cannot use its own equipment - without the prior consent of the American Government. So without a nod from Capitol Hill - India can’t touch its own equipment. And the sixth binding cause - which no American equipment provided to India, will be subject to any cooperative development - meaning that India cannot develop further on US prototypes. These are six of the most relevant clauses in this top secret document - that show how America wants to deal with the India- on their terms - wanting to control Indian defence communications. And they have lobbied hard in order to get India to agree but still not been able to convince the defence establishment.

And it was exactly that sentiment - echoed when the Defence Secretary met with the Defence Chiefs. Not just that - even before Obama arrived - the service chiefs have made their displeasure known. It is because of the open and clear displeasure shown by the defence establishment - that the strong American lobbies are having a rethink. New Delhi extremely wary of American moves. After all - similar defence agreements with other world powers - have given India the flexibility to maintain complete control on its defence establishment. So as the US President attempts to hit the right chords, lurking in the shadows are those who are trying to force a deal - that New Delhi simply does not want.

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[Capt.Popeye]

Even before US President Barack Obama touched down in the country, away from the gaze of the cameras, a script was being written - to make Indian defence subservient to Pentagon. Talk in New Delhi’s defence circles - about a deal that - if through - would give the Americans unprecedented access to Indian defence forces and the communication systems for three services. Top secret documents that would be declassified only ten years from now - in 2020. Documents that show that the US is trying to force India into an agreement that our defence establishment does not need and does not want. The contention is the communications interoperability agreement. Part of this agreement - are six clauses that if India were to agree to - would be humiliating to say the least and completely under US control.

Article 5 of inter-operability agreement says that it will be the Indian defence ministry that shall bear the cost of reconfiguring the communications systems. More interestingly - India can only buy from the US Department of Defence. The other clause is in Article 6 of the agreement which says that the US Department of Defence shall provide defence support - subject to approval - which means - whenever it wants. Article 7 of this top secret agreement points to an effective takeover of our defence communications - since the clause says that it will be American officials who would be training Indian Govt personnel and also conducting inspections of the equipment given to India. Then clause number four - which is in Article 9 of the agreement - that says it will be only US army personnel who will have the right to access and inspect the equipment and material given to India.

Article 8, then goes on to say - that the Government of India cannot use its own equipment - without the prior consent of the American Government. So without a nod from Capitol Hill - India can’t touch its own equipment. And the sixth binding cause - which no American equipment provided to India, will be subject to any cooperative development - meaning that India cannot develop further on US prototypes. These are six of the most relevant clauses in this top secret document - that show how America wants to deal with the India- on their terms - wanting to control Indian defence communications. And they have lobbied hard in order to get India to agree but still not been able to convince the defence establishment.

And it was exactly that sentiment - echoed when the Defence Secretary met with the Defence Chiefs. Not just that - even before Obama arrived - the service chiefs have made their displeasure known. It is because of the open and clear displeasure shown by the defence establishment - that the strong American lobbies are having a rethink. New Delhi extremely wary of American moves. After all - similar defence agreements with other world powers - have given India the flexibility to maintain complete control on its defence establishment. So as the US President attempts to hit the right chords, lurking in the shadows are those who are trying to force a deal - that New Delhi simply does not want.

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India is not signing the paper on which this stuff is written. Every other country that the USA has supplied weaponry to (approx. 90) has signed on the dotted line. And there is not much of a down-side to not signing. Even the Chiefs of Staffs are against it. It will provide a great impetus to either procure or produce the necessary equipment independently.

 

[Peacefulll]

Not sure how true this is, and how much is simply a rumour - I'm generally very very careful when it comes to reports by Times Now.

But if any such clauses actually exist, we just need to show them the middle finger, and go elsewhere.

 

[Chanakyaa]

India is NOT signing CISMOA.

 

[The HBS Guy]

Even before US President Barack Obama touched down in the country, away from the gaze of the cameras, a script was being written - to make Indian defence subservient to Pentagon. Talk in New Delhi’s defence circles - about a deal that - if through - would give the Americans unprecedented access to Indian defence forces and the communication systems for three services. Top secret documents that would be declassified only ten years from now - in 2020. Documents that show that the US is trying to force India into an agreement that our defence establishment does not need and does not want. The contention is the communications interoperability agreement. Part of this agreement - are six clauses that if India were to agree to - would be humiliating to say the least and completely under US control.

Article 5 of inter-operability agreement says that it will be the Indian defence ministry that shall bear the cost of reconfiguring the communications systems. More interestingly - India can only buy from the US Department of Defence. The other clause is in Article 6 of the agreement which says that the US Department of Defence shall provide defence support - subject to approval - which means - whenever it wants. Article 7 of this top secret agreement points to an effective takeover of our defence communications - since the clause says that it will be American officials who would be training Indian Govt personnel and also conducting inspections of the equipment given to India. Then clause number four - which is in Article 9 of the agreement - that says it will be only US army personnel who will have the right to access and inspect the equipment and material given to India.

Article 8, then goes on to say - that the Government of India cannot use its own equipment - without the prior consent of the American Government. So without a nod from Capitol Hill - India can’t touch its own equipment. And the sixth binding cause - which no American equipment provided to India, will be subject to any cooperative development - meaning that India cannot develop further on US prototypes. These are six of the most relevant clauses in this top secret document - that show how America wants to deal with the India- on their terms - wanting to control Indian defence communications. And they have lobbied hard in order to get India to agree but still not been able to convince the defence establishment.

And it was exactly that sentiment - echoed when the Defence Secretary met with the Defence Chiefs. Not just that - even before Obama arrived - the service chiefs have made their displeasure known. It is because of the open and clear displeasure shown by the defence establishment - that the strong American lobbies are having a rethink. New Delhi extremely wary of American moves. After all - similar defence agreements with other world powers - have given India the flexibility to maintain complete control on its defence establishment. So as the US President attempts to hit the right chords, lurking in the shadows are those who are trying to force a deal - that New Delhi simply does not want.

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I have a feeling that may be this 'top-secret' document was intentionally leaked to the media by the Indian govt. in order to force US to back off citing public opinion and media pressure because now, there'll be hell lot of media pressure on govt. to not sign these agreements which it anyways doesn't want to.

Clever move, if that is the case!

 

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I have a feeling that may be this 'top-secret' document was intentionally leaked to the media by the Indian govt. in order to force US to back off citing public opinion and media pressure because now, there'll be hell lot of media pressure on govt. to not sign these agreements which it anyways doesn't want to.

Clever move, if that is the case!

The News Hour, on Times now officially showed a copy of the document on television. All the clauses were clearly printed. This is genuine, and I believe it was made available to them by a top defense officer. Copies of these documents have been circulated among the highest ranks in India's defence forces and the US was literally trying to push it down our throats. Bad move.

 

[The HBS Guy]

The News Hour, on Times now officially showed a copy of the document on television. All the clauses were clearly printed. This is genuine, and I believe it was made available to them by a top defense officer. Copies of these documents have been circulated among the highest ranks in India's defence forces and the US was literally trying to push it down our throats. Bad move.

Waise this is a great strategy! Whenever US tries to push any such agreements, just leak a document or two to the media and enjoy the show

In fact I don't know why but I also feel that the way Obama was ridiculed today by Indian media also had the covert blessing of GoI...just to create pressure on him you know!

 

[Optimus]

And specifically leak it to Times of India... They are very good at playing sports with such classified documents

India has Russia, Israel and other European countries who are ready to do deals with mutual respect... Bush gave ample importance to India... Obama is just a joke with this tour to India...

 

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Another spicy story from Times now,India is not signing CISMOA

 

[Tshering22]

For the umpteenth time people, we're not signing the CISMOA or LSA or any dumb agreement. It is not only because of "subservience" but simply because neither IAF nor IN nor IA feel the need to have any of those equipments on board. It is like saying, French are providing armed A330 versions with 30 mm cannons jutting out from underbelly when we simply want a tanker. Why'd we sign an agreement for the guns when we don't need them?

Inter-operability is a problem that plagues NATO because it is bound to each other in an alliance and hence US may have to use Italian/German/English etc equipment and vice versa.

We're not in any alliance with anyone except strategic cooperation and have an independent say. So why do we need interoperability? It is not like we'll be fighting any wars on US behalf or they ours. In any war, we'd be on our own and these international exercises to build confidence and learn from each other maneuvers and tactics.

ACM Naik, Adm. Verma as well as MOD official final statement is that we'd not sign CISMOA and LSA. Why is TOI digging ashes out of Ganges?

 

[The HBS Guy]

Why is TOI digging ashes out of Ganges?

May be ToI has been prompted by the GoI to do so...in order to create public opinion against the agreements you know!