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‘America hates California’: Bid to make Golden State separate nation jumps first hurdle
Published time: 27 Jan, 2017 14:09
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The proposed constitutional amendment, titled California Nationhood, would also ask voters to repeal the clause that describes the US Constitution as the “supreme law of the land.” If approved, it suggests scheduling a vote in March 2019 to ask Americans, “Should California become a free, sovereign and independent country?”

The initiative maintains that the election “shall constitute a Declaration of Independence from the United States of America” if two key conditions are met: at least 50 percent of registered voters participate and at least 55 percent vote ‘Yes’.

If both of conditions are satisfied, the measure requires submission to the United Nations of an application for the “newly-independent Republic of California” to be a UN member state, the initiative says, as cited by the Sacramento-based Legislative Analyst's Office (LAO).

Being a US state is “no longer serving California’s best interests,” the movement claims.

“Not only is California forced to subsidize this massive military budget with our taxes, but Californians are sent off to fight in wars that often do more to perpetuate terrorism than to abate it. The only reason terrorists might want to attack us is because we are part of the United States and are guilty by association. Not being a part of that country will make California a less likely target of retaliation by its enemies,” the campaign argues, among other things.

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“America already hates California, and America votes on emotions,” Marcus Evans, vice-president of Yes California told to the Los Angeles Times.

“I think we'd have the votes today if we held it,” he added.

It must submit the valid voter signatures by July 25 to qualify for the November 2018 ballot.

The number of Californians who would rather see their state a sovereign nation than part of the United States jumped to 32 percent, a new Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll showed earlier this week. In 2014, it was only 20 percent.

The support for independence apparently rose in the wake of Donald Trump’s election in the November presidential election.

The poll was taken from December 6 to January 16 and has a credibility interval of 5 percentage points in California.


I love you Trump :devil:
 
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only major and long runing economy cirsis can make this happen .... [ maybe fall of dollar will be the trigger ]
 
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Interesting proposal but don't see it happening
With a USA under Trump, anything is possible bro. I hope USA dismantles from inside just like the soviets.
Californians are mostly Latinas, Trump sensitized their nationalism feelings by bullying Mexico asking them to pay for the wall which separates Mexico from USA forever. He also declared that he wants to destroy countryside camps which are full of Mexican refugees. Californian Latinas will not remain silent over that humiliation.
 
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People like Trump can only be countered by Power of local people , and that requires every single vote or territory to work as group to impeach Trump

He has initiated processes to change the , US from inside .... from all small governing bodies to largest entities, every single check and balance setup point is being modified or is being replaced

Already as we speak cases against Trump are sky rocketing

However remains to be seen if Trump will cause an implosion due to his various political moves

I am certain he would deploy troops in California then see it join Mexico or be a independent state

May be the media sees something we can't , but his policies are certainly reflective of a very extremist guy who at his old age , can't figure out the world around him
 
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Someone like Trump coming to power was foreseen by wise people .... This is God rule , no country and people would stay at top forever ...

but I would like Clinton to come to power ( although I hate her ) , that bitch could ultimately destroy USA empire in long term by her so called cunning planes ... Trump is double edge sword , he can make usa great again ( for short period of time ) or weaken her more than this ....

in the end no one can escape from wheel of history ...
 
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Americans will learn their actions have consequences
and what about rest of the world bro what did we do to deserve him.great recession will look like a child in front of the monster that this event can create
 
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and what about rest of the world bro what did we do to deserve him.great recession will look like a child in front of the monster that this event can create
It will be tremendous tremendous trust me it will be yuge
 
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No one I've ever spoken to here supports this or has even discussed this. Sometimes I think people on this website live in their own world. California isn't going anywhere.
 
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No one I've ever spoken to here supports this or has even discussed this. Sometimes I think people on this website live in their own world. California isn't going anywhere.

Sometimes? It's a hell of a lot more than sometimes :lol:

All one has to do(for example) is visit some of the various circle jerk hyper nationalist threads to see that there are many on PDF that live in their own video game fantasy world.
 
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Sometimes? It's a hell of a lot more than sometimes :lol:

All one has to do(for example) is visit some of the various circle jerk hyper nationalist threads to see that there are many on PDF that live in their own video game fantasy world.


The fact that these two idiots held this conference in Moscow tells you just about everything you need to know about this "movement".
 
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