Ali pir Guls latest rap outing mocks both extremist liberals & extremist conservatives

[Ocean]

@django @Jon-Snow

 

[Ocean]

@Kambojaric @lastofthepatriots

 

[Pakistani E]

Yes them liberals man. Just like the religious extremists, these liberals are going around blowing themselves in markets full of women and children, attacking and massacring school children. Or beheading soldiers, and then spitting on their sacrifices. Or throwing acid on women or killing polio workers. Them liberals man, so dangerous. Be wary of these liberals, or they will come for you.

 

[Verve]

Yes them liberals man. Just like the religious extremists, these liberals are going around blowing themselves in markets full of women and children, attacking and massacring school children. Or beheading soldiers, and then spitting on their sacrifices. Or throwing acid on women or killing polio workers. Them liberals man, so dangerous. Be wary of these liberals, or they will come for you.

And who has been defending these terrorists in court? The beacons of desi liberalism, such as Asma Jahangir.

Liberals have been at the forefront of fight to abolish death penalty, even of these children murderers you've pointed.

Liberals have been against military courts too, especially when we are in state of war against the terrorists you've pointed.

Still can't see it?

 

[Khanate]

Yes them liberals man. Just like the religious extremists, these liberals are going around blowing themselves in markets full of women and children, attacking and massacring school children. Or beheading soldiers, and then spitting on their sacrifices. Or throwing acid on women or killing polio workers. Them liberals man, so dangerous. Be wary of these liberals, or they will come for you.

Did you copy/paste this from the interwebs?

To recap:

• The self-professed liberals of Pakistan regularly engage in voilence. Just look at MQM.
• The self-professed liberals of Pakistan did start militant organisations. Just look at Al-Zulfiqar.
• The self-professed liberals of Pakistan were responsible for the East Pakistan debacle.

And who has been defending these terrorists in court? The beacons of desi liberalism, such as Asma Jahangir.

Liberals have been at the forefront of fight to abolish death penalty, even of these children murderers you've pointed.

Liberals have been against military courts too, especially when we are in state of war against the terrorists you've pointed.

Still can't see it?

Wait till you meet ANP's brand of liberalism.

 

[Ocean]

And who has been defending these terrorists in court? The beacons of desi liberalism, such as Asma Jahangir.

Liberals have been at the forefront of fight to abolish death penalty, even of these children murderers you've pointed.

Liberals have been against military courts too, especially when we are in state of war against the terrorists you've pointed.

Still can't see it?

Groups he mentioned, polio attacks, aps school attacks, soldiers beheading etc are those who are treated as terrorists not even extremist minded people.

As of throwing acid i dont know where he linked those things with religious extremism its a rotten part of sub con society.

Lastly, here Ali pir gul was taking pot shots at those religous people who criticize evrything about other group wanting to force their views and then exactly same group but on the other spectrum that is far left.

Btw liberals make Bhensa groups, post blasphemous content, support terror groups like bla , attacks against pakistan army, liberals like asma , bhensa , taha siddiqui curse pak army which fights terrorists, they call isi a terror org, hive interviews to indian tv channels badmouthing pakistan,its forces and intel agencies. Then they run away to europe when they fear being tried for their deeds and like any brave liberal sitting 1000s miles away from pakistan in europe post anti pak tweets.

These liberals are his moral guides.

And not to mention the msising persons allegations levelled against pakistan army also came from these same liberals

 

[Khanate]

Groups he mentioned, polio attacks, aps school attacks, soldiers beheading etc are those who are treated as terrorists not even extremist minded people.

As of throwing acid i dont know where he linked those things with religious extremism its a rotten part of sub con society.

Lastly, here Ali pir gul was taking pot shots at those religous people who criticize evrything about other group wanting to force their views and then exactly same group but on the other spectrum that is far left.

Btw liberals make Bhensa groups, post blasphemous content, support terror groups like bla , attacks against pakistan army, liberals like asma , bhensa , taha siddiqui curse pak army which fights terrorists, they call isi a terror org, hive interviews to indian tv channels badmouthing pakistan,its forces and intel agencies. Then they run away to europe when they fear being tried for their deeds and like any brave liberal sitting 1000s miles away from pakistan in europe post anti pak tweets.

These liberals are his moral guides.

And not to mention the msising persons allegations levelled against pakistan army also came from these same liberals

You forgot to add the self-professed twitter seculars like Brahumdagh Bugti and Mehran Marri.

Such peaceful liberals.

 

[Silverblaze]

Did you copy/paste this from the interwebs?

To recap:

• The self-professed liberals of Pakistan regularly engage in voilence. Just look at MQM.
• The self-professed liberals of Pakistan did start militant organisations. Just look at Al-Zulfiqar.
• The self-professed liberals of Pakistan were responsible for the East Pakistan debacle.

Wait till you meet ANP's brand of liberalism.

Hang them all!

but why a soft corner for lets say Jamat e islami when they called soldiers "not shaheeds". why not hang them for treason?

Why a soft corner for lal masjid? why offer funerals for osama? why tolerate fazl ur rehman and many others. why not investigate tableeghi jamat for RAW connections? Why not treat them as Al zulfiqar.

many liberals in pakistan are treasonous snakes but these mullahs and their supporters are menace to humanity.

By the way who created MQM and who let ANP free in 1977 was it the same mard e momin who created another corrupt traitor nawaz sharif?

 

[Khanate]

but why a soft corner for lets say Jamat e islami when they called soldiers "not shaheeds". why not hang them for treason?

Why a soft corner for lal masjid? why offer funerals for osama? why tolerate fazl ur rehman and many others. why not investigate tableeghi jamat for RAW connections? Why not treat them as Al zulfiqar.

I don't have any sympathy/soft corner for the organisations you listed. They should all be taken to task.

many liberals in pakistan are treasonous snakes but these mullahs and their supporters are menace to humanity.

Agreed.

By the way who created MQM and who let ANP free in 1977 was it the same mard e momin who created another corrupt traitor nawaz sharif?

Debateable.

Zia, for all his faults, was a product of his times. We are talking post-1971 Pakistan here. On a ligher note, mard-e-momin remains the best use of mard and momin.

Now to be fair to @Sher Shah Awan, we do not have a "liberal" political party in Pakistan. We have sub-nationalists masquerading as secularist and liberals. This isn't a new marketing strategy for sub-nationalists. Kurds use similar branding to hide or make their sub-nationalist agenda more palatable. In any case, I appologise to anyone who feels my remarks were loaded and unfair. I try to stay away from politics on this forum but I was overwhelmed by the devil today.

Again, my sincere appologies.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Wanna be lib and religious chuttiyahs got owned by this song. lol

 

[Reichsmarschall]

 

[Pakistani E]

Most folks in Pakistan are too retarded to even discuss this topic with to be honest, as they don't even know what Liberalism is or the different strands of Liberalism. Funny that MQM and ANP and other ethnic fascist parties are being given as examples of Liberals here. Only shows the wide spread ignorance and distortion of what Liberalism is.

Suggest people read all of this as I am otherwise indisposed to write lengthy arguments again on PDF. So instead of quoting their favourite news anchors and political nitwits they watch on t.v giving them discourse on Liberalism, read this before quoting me again. Regards.

"John Locke (1632–1704) is among the most influential political philosophers of the modern period. In the Two Treatises of Government, he defended the claim that men are by nature free and equal against claims that God had made all people naturally subject to a monarch. He argued that people have rights, such as the right to life, liberty, and property, that have a foundation independent of the laws of any particular society. Locke used the claim that men are naturally free and equal as part of the justification for understanding legitimate political government as the result of a social contract where people in the state of nature conditionally transfer some of their rights to the government in order to better ensure the stable, comfortable enjoyment of their lives, liberty, and property. Since governments exist by the consent of the people in order to protect the rights of the people and promote the public good, governments that fail to do so can be resisted and replaced with new governments. Locke is thus also important for his defense of the right of revolution. Locke also defends the principle of majority rule and the separation of legislative and executive powers. In the Letter Concerning Toleration, Locke denied that coercion should be used to bring people to (what the ruler believes is) the true religion and also denied that churches should have any coercive power over their members. Locke elaborated on these themes in his later political writings, such as the Second Letter on Toleration and Third Letter on Toleration."

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/locke-political/#ConPolOblEndGov

 

[Silverblaze]

I don't have any sympathy/soft corner for the organisations you listed. They should all be taken to task.





Agreed.





Debateable.

Zia, for all his faults, was a product of his times. We are talking post-1971 Pakistan here. On a ligher note, mard-e-momin remains the best use of mard and momin.

Now to be fair to @Sher Shah Awan, we do not have a "liberal" political party in Pakistan. We have sub-nationalists masquerading as secularist and liberals. This isn't a new marketing strategy for sub-nationalists. Kurds use similar branding to hide or make their sub-nationalist agenda more palatable. In any case, I appologise to anyone who feels my remarks were loaded and unfair. I try to stay away from politics on this forum but I was overwhelmed by the devil today.

Again, my sincere appologies.

So nawaz shareef's as a protege of zia is debatable? Well that explains certain soft corners for people who are great to wear a cloak of religion and conduct politics underneath.

Apologies but since iam entitled to my opinion - i do not trust folks who are mullah apologists especially of religious jamats. their actions lead at least me to believe they are arm of indian agencies. While ANP, MQM etc are targeted and rightly so, religious tola is tolerated and occassionally just verbally dismissed.

Pakistan needs neither a religious party nor a liberal one but a national party. A national party which recognizes ethnic diversity of Pakistan and on religious front exercises ijtihad which was the way of Iqbal and Jinnah, Pakistans founding fathers. Anyone playing divisive games deserves unparalleled savagery as retribution.

 

[Reichsmarschall]

Pakistan needs neither a religious party nor a liberal one but a national party.

someone living in Kanada has no right to tell us what we need in Pakistan

Only shows the wide spread ignorance and distortion of what Liberalism is.

who are the ideal liberals in Pakistan?

 

[Silverblaze]

someone living in Kanada has no right to tell us what we need in Pakistan


who are the ideal liberals in Pakistan?

Pakistan runs in our blood! no RAW sponsored mullah terrorist supporter has any right to criticize overseas Pakistanis who send billions to Pakistan!