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If thats the case then india shouldnt have joined the Russian 5th generation fighter project aka PAK-FA but it indeed is in a JV, reason being it cant make a 5th generation fighter without any help besides Americans,Russians, Europians and Chinese no one really can at the moment. see i am not...

Yeah you guys are catching up but the problem is india tries to bulid everything for scratch rather then buying off the shelf technology best example the karvi engine it was better if you guys sticked with GE-404 or have bought RD series of engine just like we did for thunder and then like it...

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Sorry that u missed out on the F-16 conversation on cope india where F-16's pilot indeed did show up but there posts were delated due to the sensitive information data in their posts there is a Mod name Asif something over there u can Pm and ask him he would assure u of that...:angel: The...

No i do not believe in kill switches if that was the case nobody would buy american hardware as far as EW suits go yes there were reports and all even some congress men were told about PAF not having this but that has been rejected by the PAF i ask u what will PAF use bunker busters and JSOW and...

For a person whose known about jets fore more then 8 years now that article is Bull Shi*t if u see all F-16's are being upgraded with friend and foe systems and the new ones will come with them, now RWR are present on PAF F-7P's how the bloody hell wont they be on the F-16's there is something...

Well Fellow member i dont but i do know this the plane has been in development for more then 20 years now, that speaks for its self. What does any of that gotta do with this topic?. Then again if ur trying to prove your the only educated person around here point taken lol.

I was talking about your IAF's chief's statment about introducting 2nd hand Mig-29's to counter the new F-16 threat. Well when will it be ready after 15 more years thats the argument When exactly will it be put into service.

Happy that u replied like a sane person altho rude but still humian..:rolleyes: Then Again when our ACM says we will our recieve new F-16's with in 3 years i will take his words rather then your's. Sorry but i wasnt speaking french that u dont understand the word Wartime.. You see...

Last i read the Dassault didnt want to sell the Rafale to Morrocco they simply said nooo and yes i agree with ur statment there, good to see somebody over here speaks my language...:thumbsup:

Thanks for that:cheers: Well lets see now JF-17 has an airframe which is if not all is influnced by the F-16 which is an unstable design it self, according to my sources thunder has better turn rates then F-16 at subsonic speed besides that my entire family is in PAF and i take there word for...

i have read at several places that IAF will complete its MKI fleet of 190 by 2015 that too from indian sources so i take there word for it as this has been stated by the IAF chief him self several times......the argument about u saying thunder will be delieved between PAF and PLAAF is until PAC...

I would prefer u to do the same charity beings at home. Really what makes u so sure about that besides that what makes u sure we wont precure anymore F-16's i dont remember u being the PAF's airforce chief like i said what makes u sure we wont buy anything beyond 36 F-16's???? It has been...

From a guy who has 2000+ posts thats a very childish statment too be honest:disappointed: . india will get all its MKI fleet to 10 by 2015 or onwards that gives PAF a lot of times for a fact all the F-16's will be delieved new and all the F-16's old would be upgraded by 2010 thats for sure...

With all due respect i wasnt calling LCA names nor did i cal it junk if u read my post carefully i mentioned 2 things 1st lca has a 25 million+ price tag on it which makes it quite expensive for what it has to offer anybody would rather buy 2nd had F-16's or Mig-29's and upgrade em. 2nd i...

I believe SAGEM-M53-p2 is out of the question for LCA as this engine is quite big it would even be a hard fit for JF-17 which is surely bigger then size then LCA M88-2 could certainly be an option tho..

Well i guess i would take a nutral stance over here to me LCA looks like down sized version of the M2K(Mirage-2000) now i would say LCA isnt good yes i can be a critic but at the same time this jet could have been sucessful given that it didnt have a huge price tag what i believe IAF failed to...

All i know for sure is JF-17 is showing up in the 2006 expo centre which will be held in November.

Well i dont agree with that actually technically Pakistan approached for the F-16's 1st and i believe if Pakistan signs the contract before turkey we will be the first ones recieving the F-16':thumbsup: hopefully Inshallah.

Thr truth is only those who have great economies can afford great or best military's best example would be of the USA and china it self. As far as the F-16's go new and old i believe we will have all the F-16' in 3 to 5 time years max from what i have heard PAF will get all the 26 peace gate...