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So, there will no Krakatau class or Tambora class then?

Building The Sigma

No. We want the longer and bigger one :lol: So did we accept their proposal ? And for the REM class, do we built just the 2 of it ?

Never heard we were considering De Zeven Provincien class, since it's built by Damen too. Any reason ?

So in conclusion we will 'produce' the one without stealth and weapon bay. But I think we still can buy the 'full package fighter' at the very special price. Certainly our air force will calculate all of the possibilities will happened. Everything could be happened then, still long way to go. So...

I have same thought with you and also I noticed and found the MCs tone and voice everytime they describing the weapon and action were very annoying. Like when they're cheering, 'Apacheeeeeeeeee..' They want to sound patriotic and cheerful but they didn't. They did a lot of wrong pronunciations...

Much easier thing. We can start with fishing in Christmas Island and offshore Darwin.

I don't know what do you mean with talk by talk only ? Should I silent to answer your question ? I answer your question and it's my answer, whether you agree or not. What is your point ?

I stated before, both :coffee: 1. Sonora and Sonotan is just right there, with their quality and quantity. 2. Our vast sea teritory. 3. Deterrent efect. 4. It is what it is.

It's easy to see that psychologically his majesty have some kind post power syndrome. He looks very uncomfortable with all of Jokowi's manouvre in term of economy strategy and infrastructure that so far look so fuckin good. He start it with against Ahok, Jokowi's 'partner in crime'. We'll see...

Certainly. We need it a lot for our vast sea, but for now this is the best we could get.

That is why I said nor quality or quantity. The Chang Bogo certainly is good sub, but it's not the best of the Korean have now. I'm not saying it's not good. It's just not the greatest. And moreover no doubt curently the European (France and Germany) and US of A have the best technology for...

For now nor quantity or quality for submarine. But for 10-20 years from now we will get both once we mastered the technology and as our economy keep bigger and bigger.

Logical wise over emotional wise. The most important thing and the key factor from this deal is certainly the TOT. Self independency will benefit us a lot.

How happy I am to see so many thumbs up and big like from us regarding this new toy. I remember when the first time we decided to pick this instead of the Russian's and everybody cursed the decision. And I mean everybody. No more 'anjing kampung' everybody ?

I apologize Mod, maybe I was over excited. Should I delete it? And thank you for the greetings. Hope to see much greater Indonesia in the future.

Kado kemerdekaan yang dinanti-nanti, Emas Olimpiade !!! Luar biasa Owi dan Butet. Terima kasih banyak !!!

Come just to say this : Walaupun banyak negri kujalani Yang masyhur permai dikata orang Tetapi kampung dan rumahku Di sanalah kurasa senang Tanahku tak kulupakan Engkau kubanggakan Selamat Hari Kemerdekaan, Jaya Selalu Negeriku !!! Dirgahayu Indonesia !!!

Our soap opera or we call it Sinetron is one of the most important business in Indonesia. Many of our celebrity grew, played and got their fortune there. Best sinetron will be broadcasted in major TV stations in the prime time and certainly it has the best rating of all. Here are some of them :

As Indonesian film industry, I would say Indonesia along with Thailand and Philippines have the pole position in south east Asia. Personally I must say Thai is the better between three of us, but from 2000s until now our film industry has improved a lot, for instance Ada Apa Dengan Cinta, Laskar...