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    Pakistan Navy’s 2300 Tons OPVs launched by Damen

    Missed the PN part
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    Pakistan Navy’s 2300 Tons OPVs launched by Damen

    As a replacement for DA-20 Falcons?
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    Ababeel Missile Tested

    Damn! Was gonna post this myself! Anyways i agree with people saying Pakistan does need longer range missiles, but what it really needs is satellite launch capability. ICBM tech can be developed from SLVs and that really is the order of the day for Pakistan. It needs better regional satellite...
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    Pakistan Navy’s 2300 Tons OPVs launched by Damen

    What would it take to make it feasible?
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    Pakistan Navy’s 2300 Tons OPVs launched by Damen

    Agree with the idea to set it up, but does this capability exist currently?
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    Pakistan Navy’s 2300 Tons OPVs launched by Damen

    What is the capacity in Pakistan to produce military ship grade steel? Does Pakistan even have the capability to produce the steel or is it something that would need to be sourced?
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    Jinnah class guided missile frigate has entered detailed design phase, after completion of conceptual design phase

    Honestly, if this the JCF has only 16 cell VLS when you have a design like AS3600 out there already based on MILGEM, i will be truly disappointed. JCF at 3300t should be able to house a 32 c vls or it should be made larger. A 32 cell MILDAS would probably enable quad packing of CAMM-ER provided...
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    Pakistan-Turkey 4 Milgem Ada Class Corvettes Contract - Construction started

    Agreed. Im not suggesting turning around and doing it tomorrow. But food for the future. The other situation is the CIWS. I had been confident that the Gokdeniz or other CIWS was going to be installed soon along with other weapons, but have started to wonder if the reason for not having one...
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    Pakistan-Turkey 4 Milgem Ada Class Corvettes Contract - Construction started

    Ideally they will use the AS3600 as basis for JCF which would give tremendous flexibility in a small"ish" platform.
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    Pakistan-Turkey 4 Milgem Ada Class Corvettes Contract - Construction started

    A rough check on the top down image shows that 4 mildas cells (on the Istanbul class) are roughly the same footprint as 6 GWS.35 Cells. If the Turks can arrange for 4 cell modules of MILDAS, and Pakistan can get CAMM-ER certified to fire from MILDAS (with MBDA/Italian permission), then these...
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    Pakistan, China agree to revise cost of ML-1 project

    What you say about US Tracks is so true. There is a lot of politics in the building of rail lines in US and we have ver limited passenger use of rail so their is no incentive to update the lines for high speed transit. Cargo companies care more for efficiency than speed (a train can move 1 ton...
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    Pakistan-Turkey 4 Milgem Ada Class Corvettes Contract - Construction started

    While yarmook b2 are often shown with RAM style launcher, i very much doubt PN will go for RAM. Its more likely going to be Gokdeniz to start and possibly converted to Roketsan or Aselsan Goksur PDMS when they are available. As for the Baburs, i am sure they will get CIWS soon.
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    Jinnah class guided missile frigate has entered detailed design phase, after completion of conceptual design phase

    Honestly, even a 32 cell system can be appropriate if you have quad packable weapons and cells. The MILDAS seems to be equivalent to the Sylver A50/A70s. That should allow quadpacks of CAMM-ER if PN can get it certified on MILDAS. That would allow 8 cells for 32 MRSAMs and allow you to use 8...
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    Pakistan Navy’s 2300 Tons OPVs launched by Damen

    Remember, that deal also included rights to the project including blueprints, modification rights and future rights to sell those modified designs. So the $1.5Bln isnt all tied up into those 4 ships.
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    Pakistan Navy’s 2300 Tons OPVs launched by Damen

    The rationale behind this deal was good, the initial execution of it (OPV 2300/Yarmook) was dumb as all hell. From a financial standpoint, the HULLS cost only $50M from what I understand. That is the reason behind the deal. You get a frigate sized vessel for cheap then can arm it with indigenous...
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    Absolutely NOT to absolutely YES. Pakistan supplying weapons to Ukraine

    Dont flatter yourself. Trump had a policy of minimal interference. He only allowed handful of drone strikes. You really think IKs then army masters cared if he would allow drone strikes? The US under trump did not conduct many strikes in Pakistan and was winding down Afghanistan. That was why...
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    Absolutely NOT to absolutely YES. Pakistan supplying weapons to Ukraine

    From what i understand, IMF required ability to show Pakistan could finance the loan through its own holdings and assurances from international partners. This sale was "advised" by US to close the gap needed between what China, UAE, and KSA were willing to finance and the remainder that Pakistan...
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    Turkiye's Minister of National Defense Guler: Agreement with Pakistan for KAAN is about to be signed

    Has there actually been any agreement signed or is it all speculation. I did see some tweets with PAF insignia a week or so ago, but wasnt sure if it was real
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    Pakistan Air Force | News & Discussions.

    Honestly, if india is participating, i would have sent vipers which they have seen regularly in exercises. Keep the thunder home on this one.
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    Pakistan - Turkey (PAC-TAI) Collaboration for NGFA-TFX 5th Gen Aircraft l Updates, News & Discussion

    That may be best for Pakistan as well. What Pakistan private sector lacks is a proper culture. The landscape in every sector is dominated be nepotism instead of merit or is governed by ex army who may run tighter ships (usually not... Its just a post retirement severance) but due to army...
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