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Calm down ... in all other threads Turkish members are constantly talking Turkish, in the Iranian threads Iranian members are constantly talking Farsi, in Pakistani threads Pakistani members are constantly talking Urdu and in Indian threads Indian members are constantly talking Hindi or whatever...

Finally … However, still not clear is the type of engine and if this is a prototype or already/finally a serial aircraft.

Already online…

Dem kann ich zustimmen… kann aber genauso gut auch wieder das Modell sein

Since Russia's media is hyping such news since almost two decades and none of the promised two carrier battle groups, none of the numerous operational Su-57 regiments, no new stealth bomber, barely any useful UAV or evn UCAV, no new transport, anything on EW- or special mission types is in fact...

Yes, simply since that image is too blurry ...

Yes, simply since it still not exist and most likely won't ever materialise - at best as a prototype - so then, why always posting BS videos with bombastic sounding headlines? :crazy: :hitwall:

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At least I see clearly a prop and no jet engines?!

It's really funny that you two make fun about Germany - which is in most cases justified - but that still does not make this blurry dot an UCAV nor that type in any way capable or successful, which Germany could do anytime it it would want. :smitten:

I don't think so, they just reused the old and in most details simply inaccurate model from 10 years ago.

Just since they put that old plastic toy again out some get excited and call it an UCAV?! :omghaha: IMO these blurry dots are simply too blurry to see if it is an UCAV or just the old one.

Best joke ever! :omghaha: Turkey is neither in danger nor in a desperate situation, it - or in fact its president - simply has a completely exaggerated ego, is playing with great power ambitions that are inappropriate and is jeopardizing everything that has been achieved with mutual trust...

As if the J-10C is an alternative!? :omghaha: At least Turkey must be clear, the moment it signs a contract with China for J-10C, no F-16 will be supported any more, no engines for Kaan ... the damage will bee even greater than after the F-35-disaster.

Really? What time-span would you define as „soon“? In fact I‘m more than unsure when. We‘ll finally see it but my gut-feeling tells me, we‘ll have to be Patronen for a much longer time … and then someday it will almost pup up out of the blue!

And that‘s the problem: As long as your beloved president acts like a troll, who offends and insults constantly all sides on the international scene - in fact just like you here in all threads - the chances are quite good that both countries block this sale for good reasons. :smitten:

At least it moved a bit:

There’s something happening!? „The sea trial started, or about to start in the next few days.OP is saying it as the sea trial and others claim that it is an inclining test.“. (Kalec/SDF)„There are tugs around the carrier“ (Temstar/SDF) (Images via @LeoSongPKU from Weibo)

Has the pitot attached .. maybe not a recent image?

I know :smitten: It is clear to me that there was no other way for you than to immediately interpret a justified criticism as a shameless attack and also to deny all of these facts.Still, there were these almost affidavits that something "big" - and that didn't mean the J-10 - was already...