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July 2011 is outdated? So what is acceptable to you? Fanboy links?

Did you look at my reply?

Which website? The unofficial fanboy website? Did you even take a look at the link I posted?

Yup. I'm assuming the 2 wetpoints next to the fuselage Hardpoint to be able to fire SD-10 in the block 2 version due in a few months.

The first configuration pic is from 2008. The next are pics from models/CGIs. All this may be the future way forward for JF-17 to develop, but currently it is not the case.

jf-17.com & cnair.top81.cn are unofficial fanboy websites. This is the official website updated around July 2011 long after production for Block 1 started - Pakistan Aeronautical Complex & Pakistan Aeronautical Complex . When JF-17 Block 1 can only carry 2 MRAAMs/BVRs then it seems foolish to...

J-10B is, a poor man's Rafale JF-17 is, a poor man's F-16

That is obviously a mockup. See the link you posted! It was still in concept stages in 2008! Did the PAF invent a time machine to get to the future and bring the missile back in 1999?

http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian-defence/181836-pakistan-air-force-gain-superiority-over-indian-air-force-13.html#post2995015

How can you have the T-Darter before even the South Africans? T-Darter was still in concept and preliminary stages in 2008. See the link again. “T Darter is a concept radar-guided missile,” Wessels says. “We are [proposing to use] some of our existing technologies and [are]...

Funny you say that. PAF loves parading, inviting Alan Warnes of AFM to its facilities, to JF-17 bombing missions and whatnot. Not to mention parading JF-17 in Airshows all around the world! It's no secret JF-17 is going to have BVR missiles, to be saying JF-17 BVR integration is a secret is...

Please no rumors. I need some links for purchase of T-Darter intended for Mirage-3, and BVR integration and operational clearance for JF-17. What do you mean since start? All F-16s became BVR capable only from 1992! I don't recall US performing modifications on the PAF F-16s to make it BVR...

That is untrue. The hardpoint next to the wingtip hardpoint can carry R-77. Proof- So that's a total of 10 R-77s. The number of R-27 semi-active BVR missile is however limited to 6. The 12 hardpoints can be increased to 14 with the help of multi racks, no photo proof but has been confirmed...

As of now, only 18 F-16 Block 52 along with a handful of F-16 which has been converted to MLU standards are confirmed to be BVR capable. JF-17 will eventually have BVR but there is no confirmation yet on whether BVR missile testing is fully complete and has been fully integrated and given...

Mirage-3 is 2nd Generation (no BVR) F-7P is 2nd Generation (no BVR) F-7PG is 2.5 Generation (no BVR) JF-17 Block-1 is 3.5 Generation (BVR) F-16 is 4th Generation (BVR) MiG-21 Bison is 2.5+ Generation (BVR) Harrier is 3rd Generation (BVR) Mirage-2000H is 4th Generation (BVR) MiG-29B is 4th...

Yea. :) But tell that to the chinese fan boys. A couple of years back they refused to accept that MKI is superior to MKK/MK2. Also the Pakistanis were saying that Russia the main developer of the Su-30MKI hasn't ordered Su-30MKI, when the funny thing is JF-17 wasn't ordered by the main developer...

Russian selection of Su-30MKI over MKK clears up confusion on Superiority SOURCE : TNN Among the myriad of Su-30 versions out there, there has always been a debate on which is the most advanced of them all. In particular the versions, operated by the Indian Air Force and the Peoples Liberation...

It would have been better if the Indian media said it but... :confused: "India will emerge as the superpower with command over a hypersonic version of the cruise missile technology in five years, said A. Sivathanu Pillai, Chief Executive Officer and Managing Director, BrahMos Aerospace Private...

Ah! So they were Mirage-5! Thought they were 3s. wow, so the Maritime Mirage-5 have a radar, and more so have the same radars as Maritime Jaguars. IAF Maritime Jaguars too have Agave radar. lol the french have been double dealing selling the same stuff. Agave is not a Air-Air BVR radar, but very...

ROSE is a Air to Ground upgrade. ROSE stands for (Retrofit Of Strike Element). PAF Mirage-3 has no Matra Super 530d BVR missile, while our Mirage-2000 can launch BVRs. PAF Mirage-5 is not even a fighter. It doesn't even have a radar! Mirage-5 is more or less equal to our MiG-27. Mirage-3 can be...