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I was talking about Jordan.....

Well "Christians of the West" obviously has contributed most to the human civilization....BUT...in the last 300 years or so (after industrialization)...I was talking about "over-all" human history and success ratio of human civilizations... And not necessarily, Islam will only fall IF Muslims...

Alexander doesn't even come close! All his fairy tales aren't historically verifiable. His conquests left little or no mark in history. Romans are a contender, but eventually they themselves fell to Islamic Power between 7th to 14th century.... Arabs didn't restore their authority when in...

Just the very fact that Arabs crossed entire Arabian peninsula, crossed the mountainous plains, and attacked the huge Indian landmass in 7th century is just astonishing. Historically, "Islamic Civilization" (as people call it) has maintained the best success ratio among ALL human civilizations...

Yeah what happened? Even you know that how dominant our military really is.

Are.....you.....effin....serious? :what: Listen boy, WE WILL RIP YOUR tiny third-class AIRFORCE APART WITHIN HOURS IF WE WANT TO! What can you put up against us? Some junk Su-30s or Ohhh that Mig-29s? We will "ground" your entire fleet before it even tries to come up in the sky. Your radars...

In 2001, no country had any choice. Do you think if India was in place of Pakistan, would you have not 'allowed' us to use your airspace to Afghanistan etc? Bull...We would've used your airspace and only thing indians could've done was crying (what else you can do?) ...So Pakistan had to be...

Is it Al Khalid-II? Has it come out yet? What are the specs? I thought Pakistan only had Al Khalid-I, which is , as we were discussing, superior to Indian Arjun-I... I'd be eager to see what Al Khalid-II carries...will Al Khalid series maintain its superiority over Arjuns? or will Arjuns...

I saw the interview. Don't be an zealous idiot. Pakistani ex-President totally demolished your anchor person. Musharaf didn't seem "nervous" for even one second. Just see the body language of Musharraf and your anchor. You indians have this bad habit of making a joke out of yourself.

It is India's indigenous effort too...

For an ex-President, Musharraf was too "straight". He just ripped the anchor apart. Kinda like what Bill Clinton did to fox news once...:lol:

:lol: I rest my case here. As I said, you are just coming up with "speculations" where enemy gets the worse while you gets the best... Also, you just further consolidated my conclusion that Al Khalid-1 is superior to Arjun-1 as it carries more firepower and has superior mobility etc. Muzzle...

Well, lets not go towards US flag under feet thingy... Anyways, why don't you have any AWACS? They are a central piece to aerial defense strategy these days. Is your military same as Saudis? Where "Kings" , who are incompetent, controls military? See all advance air forces around the world...

T-72 is one of the most successful tank projects of history. Whats wrong? Do you even know anything about warfare? Facts are simple : $ 5 million per one Arjun with this capability is just not "indigenous". Al Khalid-1s are a far more successful "project" for the reasons I already mentioned...

:lol: Why would I have an agenda to portray Al Khalid as superior? I just took the authentic available specs from both sides, and compared them, and Al Khalid-1 comes out to be superior than Arjun-1. As simple as that. O.K lets put it in this way : "Average rate of fire" of Al Khalid-1 is...

$ 5 million per piece with this capability? Arjun doesn't seem so "indigenous" here...... Four every 4 to 6 Arjun tanks produced, Pakistan will produce 13 or 14 Al Khalid-1 tanks... 13 Al Khalid-1s vs 4 Arjuns? Complete victory for Pakistan here as long as project goes. Al Khalid project is...

Good. I hope all the "Islamic Parties" in the Muslim world learns from AKP and Turks. Muslim Brotherhood, you must be watching this. "Mashallah..."

This is an utterly out-dated, biased, and sub-quality report (Not the original one by Dr Farrakh but the link you gave me). But again, an india posting such news is not a surprise. Ironically, globally, Muslims are doing much,much better than indians..but yet indians post crap about...

Well correct my "mistakes" but not by your speculations. There is a difference my boy. I haven't found anything stating Arjun's ROF to be somewhere around over 15... Al Khalid-1 carries way more rounds...and has more firepower...these are plain facts. Now to give excuses "Oh, but our rounds...

Muslims have oil? Since when? :lol: Guess who controls all that 'oil' ?