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Looks like HAL's reputation precedes it :lol:. In-spite of working in Aerospace since 1940 no one wants to work with it. As usual HAL walks into the negotiation without doing any homework and not defining its role and without any consideration for Tier 2 and Tier 3 vendors :lol: but looks like...

What is so special about a room painted in gaudy gold with a chandelier, furniture, carpet and marble flooring ? .....is Wanda a interior design company ? :coffee: Yup ...:disagree: ... that is what I always imagined Paradise to look like

Image is that of indianised Bofors. This is what M-46 looks like Russian gun is M-46 and the new name is Metamorphosis IOB M46 FG........180 of which was upgunned by Soltam. Its undergoing trials so no new order of upgrade has been placed.

......may be it was a demonstration of 'american sprit' ? :lol: The Illegal, the immoral and the unethical.......the dilemma continues.

..there was a time when Slavery was 'Legal'. Just because something is 'legal' does not make it alright. But if I had to explain that ...there is no point in having any discussion with you. The name 'Aurenzeb' is as popular in India as the name 'Hitler' with the Jews or 'Judas' with...

...btw what happened to the 'Iranian Journalist' who was arrested for planting a bomb on Israeli Ambassador's car in 'good friend' India's capital ? :sniper:

No you are talking to someone who does this for a living. :coffee: HAL has the responsibility to do 'due diligence' before signing a contract. This is standard practice all over the world ....well except HAL. HAL is indeed gleefully rubbing its hands in anticipation of Rafale order ...but...

What a disgusting creature this man is. ......:sick:

...if I was every to negotiate and accept an order to build something without having all the relevant details with me, I would be fired from my job. Funny thing is ...this is standard practice with HAL. They first accept any order and then go around trying to figure out how to execute it.

IAF has also developed vendors by buying jet fuel from Indian Oil :enjoy: .......my opinion about HAL is formed by interacting with IAF, IN, CEMILAC, DGAQA, Indian vendors, Boeing, Airbus, lots of HAL employees and ex-employees (you cant work in Indian aerospace industry without bumping into HAL...

Our Armed forces are pretty naive when it comes to matters which are outside the scope of defence. Arresting Somali pirates and putting them in Indian jails to be clothed and fed by us and then endangering the lives of other Indians held hostage by these pirates ! Its a good thing they have...

GCF is attempting to upgrade Bofors from 39mm to 45 mm caliber. Tata gun is 52 mm which should give longer range.

If China wants US to be kept out of the region it will depend on how China deals with its neighbors. US made the mistake of sending its fleet into the Bay of Bengal thus finally pushing India towards Russia. Now US is spending considerable political capital, money and effort in trying to woo...

....HAL buys AL because it has no choice :disagree: If you are desperate enough to credit HAL for something, I guess this is a good enough way to do it. :lol: .....I guess HAL is too good for us :tup:. Which is why we have compromised and now work with Boeing & Airbus. :cry: I was not aware...

.......:lol: ... to prevent conspiracy from outside to shut down GCF, union has proposed strike which will involve voluntary shut down. You gotta love the PSU's :enjoy:

...HAL getting praised for 'Project Management' :lol: ....I never though I would see this day. Project Management is all about controlling 'COST', 'TIME' and 'QUALITY' ..HAL fails on all 3 counts. :cheesy:

I thought you said 'research' by DRDO is a 'black hole' for poor Indian tax payers ? :coffee:

I cant believe you mentioned Al from hindalco :confused: you forgot to mention the soap, toilent cleaners, paper, pen, rice, potato etc which are provided by HAL vendors. :disagree: I was talking about air qualified equipment's that actually goes inside an aircraft ! My 'allegations' come from...

...and the lies get propagated further ...this is a good case study of how propaganda works. Part I starts there - http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian-defence/224166-india-wants-license-produce-iron-dome.html ..its seems to indicate Nirbhay (1000km) ground attack missile is actually a...

HAL has done a great job in build Dhruv and developing Shakti engine and then evolving them into Rudra and LCH. An Indian product built for Indian conditions and appreciated by its customers. Credit to be given where credit is due :tup: This gives us hope for the future ....and success of this...