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    INS Vikrant truly a pan Indian effort

    Oh! you mean we will block the shipping lanes? How does it help us? And won't it be better to block the lanes with a few stealth subs -- cheaper but more dangerous.
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    INS Vikrant truly a pan Indian effort

    Any references for that? I think we gave more than a Rat's ***. It was the USSR which told the US fleet to lay off. As for threat of ACC as a deterrent, supports what I said all along. ACCs are good for bullying small countries. Don't try that with China though.
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    Closest allies: Joint defence declaration of India and USA

    Well! US will make sure that India's Nukes are kept in check so that it can keep selling conventional stuff. I don't see any resumption of testing anytime soon. Bio is the way to go I suppose. In secret of course, but with well timed news leaks which India should deny vehemently.
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    INS Vikrant truly a pan Indian effort

    Those who have, take care to hide it. Those who don't, tom tom their powers. I like to play Chess, but with stealthy, unanticipated moves. My choice of piece would be a stealthy Nuke powered sub. 3 ACs with not much to go with it is just like a high profile target magnet. Think of the...
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    INS Vikrant truly a pan Indian effort

    Fine, then its a different paradigm. Then its clear that ACC is not for defense but for power projection. And the area of projection is the entire IOR, which means that India will not allow any hostile navy, especially the Chinese Navy, to operate or dominate the IOR. The question is whether...
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    INS Vikrant truly a pan Indian effort

    It is well known that ACs are useless against "real" countries because they are either nuclear powers, or have strong navies and air defenses. ACs are good only against small nations which do not have effective navies or air defence. So, you take your AC near their coasts, bomb the hell out of...
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    Closest allies: Joint defence declaration of India and USA

    How do you think it will all unfold. The drama is coming alive before our own eyes - 1. Massive noise about Chinese intrusions, and with the press going overboard with Zingoism 2. India going all out for Aircraft Carriers with US tech help I feel MMS will sign a couple of heavy def deals with...
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    INS Vikrant truly a pan Indian effort

    You can bomb Karachi or Gwadar from Junagadh or Jodhpur. Dont need to put an ACC in Arabian sea for that. And ports are best blocked by Subs.
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    INS Vikrant truly a pan Indian effort

    As an Indian I take wisdom from where ever it comes. Enemies are often better teachers than yes men friends.
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    INS Vikrant truly a pan Indian effort

    That is precisely how IN uses ACCs, your fantastic hypotheses notwithstanding. Sub for example. India's sub fleet is in precarious shape. Defence R&D is shamelessly starved of funds.
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    INS Vikrant truly a pan Indian effort

    Why only Cape of Good Hope? I m sure we also have economic interests in Brazil and the North Sea. So lets get 27 ACCs. After all, India, in due course, has to replace the US as protector of free commerce and sea lanes.:hitwall: I m sure that countries with far bigger trade than India, but with...
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    INS Vikrant truly a pan Indian effort

    My query was specifically about the Indian ACCs. Once we accept that they are for air power projection, then the question is against whom? Pakistan is covered by our land forces. As for the Chinese, the fleets will have to enter Pacific even for projecting what rudimentary power they have. Can...
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    INS Vikrant truly a pan Indian effort

    A bit of reality check for ACC fanatics. ACC s are really white elephants, on the way to evolutionary extinction. And India is spending its valueble money on 3 of these! When we dont have decent tanks or Aircraft? The War Nerd: This Is How the Carriers Will Die (Updated Version) - By Gary...
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    INS Vikrant truly a pan Indian effort

    What nonsense?? You want to have ACC dogfights? Indian ACC against Chinese ACC? Why do we need ACC if Chinese ACC enters Indian Ocean? To counter ACC you need subs, Air force and conventional shift, not another ACC. Learn up the basics before flaunting your ignorance on an international...
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    INS Vikrant truly a pan Indian effort

    Against whom? Maldives? Or Myannmar or Mauritius? ACC are very expensive to operate and maintain, and need heavy protection. We dont need it against Pak because land based Air force is sufficient. For China, we need to enter the pacific -- and thats a different level game altogether. So...
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    Closest allies: Joint defence declaration of India and USA

    What a stupic comment...India too clever for China-Pak :hitwall: Are you still in High School..Sonny? parents never taught you modesty?
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    INS Vikrant truly a pan Indian effort

    I m a little dumb so maybe you can enlighten...specifically in relation to the Indian Navy please...
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    Indian Political Corner | General Election 2014, All Updates & Discussions.

    Gives you a handle with Pakistanis.... and then puncture their pretensions with a veil of legitimacy ... shakes their confidence in the brotherhood of Ummah.
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