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If they're buying it in limited quantity, it was probably easier and cheaper to just skip development and buy them. It's not like it's a really important strategic asset

This is hilarious. The Turkish Army isn't superior to the PKK? You idiot, Turkey is containing a terrorist organization ON ITS OWN SOIL and at risk of harming ITS OWN PEOPLE. This isn't the USA in Afghanistan killing civilians left and right. The war on terror can't be won militarily (unless...

Those stupid Armenians. The more they attempt to provoke us, the more assistance we're going to be able to justify giving Azerbaijan on the ground. If they push their luck too hard, there might just be Altay tanks rolling into Yerevan at some point ;).

Yeah and it's not usually something people think of but being able to maintain your missile stocks domestically is very high up there in my mind in terms of independence in foreign policy. The idea of sanctions closing off access to missile purchases is very threatening. What will you do if...

Haha I was joking man relax.

Hmm. Hmm. I wish. 1) We'd have to compete with KRG (not a big problem military but politically) to open up land for the Turks 2) No one ever recognizes our states :( (KKTC) I think, it's very distant and I don't know of any plans to do it but if it did happen, what could happen is a South...

Oh no, I'm not saying the Greek government is getting them weapons. It could be Greek Commies or Greek Nationalists is what I'm saying. I'm glad you said that, to clarify though.

LINK to Reuters Article Greeks arming groups in Turkey?? (EDIT: like atatwolf pointed out, I don't mean the Greek government) Hmm... Seems like a good excuse to bomb Greece!

True but that's also because they like to stay around ~1% of GDP for military spending. It's not like they can't afford more

I think we can trade with the Nahçıvan exclave through a small sliver of land (Nahçıvan is inside Armenia bordering Turkey) but to trade with Azerbaijan proper we trade through Georgia (that's why Georgia recently has been getting closer and closer to the Azeris and Turkey) That's...

And are Özbeks more pro-Turkey than most Kazaks?

Thank you. I should've picked up that you're Ahiska from your name lol. So what I'm gathering is that the Russians still in Kazakistan basically are poisoning the view of Turkey and really keeping Kazakistan neutral due to the divide in ethnic populations? About the more "pure" Turkish thing...

@Ahiska , what's it like in Kazakistan in terms of people's view of Turkey? I'm sure people are slightly disappointed on the amount we're able to help out but I mean politically. For example, I personally refer to Kazaks as Turkish. Yes, I don't believe in removing the Kazak identity, by all...

This would actually be very smart and useful for the Middle Eastern defense market. Turkish jet, Saudi missiles... Hmm.... Might not be a bad idea ;)

Like @olcayto said, it's not like we're going to spend that amount in a short period of time. It's a long term investment and procurement costs are not even remotely finalized yet. Yes. participating in the F-35 project was smart, we're in agreement there. Turkey hasn't deployed a tank yet...

If it's true or not, regardless. I hate Erdogan but if he's putting pressure on Egypt, then I support him on that

Plus, that $50 billion dollars is going to trickle down into the rest of the economy, increasing Turkey's technological portfolio and creating jobs, etc.

Yes, complement but do we need 100+ strike aircraft? Yeah, they're not really ground attack but multi-role aircraft but their A2A capability is known to be limited in terms of a maneuverability and while @cabatli_53, you seem to know a lot maybe about the decision making process itself, wouldn't...

I feel like though, if TF-X does happen, the F-35 orders will be scaled back. We're only going to need them for ground-attack roles predominately. TF-X will be the backbone along with F-16s that are still operating