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In what way am I incorrect? - O.K. maybe saying that it's a obsolete cold war relic is a bit of an exaggeration but that doesn't change the fact that Su-33 is not cutting edge. Su-33 designed in early 80's. Entered service in mid 90's. No major capability upgrades since. Su-33 is not in...

^^ That part says it all really. LOL - Information obtained from a blogsite being passed of as an intelligence report. :hitwall: Seems some people are desperate for more funding.

Thunder because it's cheap and will make up the numbers and provide some quality. F-16 because of their long history within PAF and the support and maintenance infrastructure already in place. J-10B to provide quality and numbers and in case of any geopolitical problems associated with F-16.

What quality standards? In the report itself, the retired (or should I say Retard) Colonel could only speculate on the folding wings and engine, but the author of the report rebutted that by pointing out the prototype was already flying with indigenous engines: The fact is Russia's most...

But the article is taken from a blog site. As far as I know, no chinese official has confirmed that J-11 is for export. If anybody knows differently, then please provide a link.

^^ I don't think its for export.

70 F-18/Rafale may very well cost the same amount as 150 J-10B but I think in the longer term it might be more sensible to go for J-10B because maintenance will be easier. F-18 would come with a lot of strings attached - What about all the US officials saying that US weapons must not be used...

Rookie pilots? - I thought you guys would save your best pilots for MKI's and these type of exercises. But it goes to show the old addage of "man behind the machine".

J-10B is in testing phase yes - so we don't really know its capabilities. However, you can make reasonable estimates of it's capabilities based upon the aircraft that it's based on i.e. J-10A (A solid 4th Gen aircraft which has been fully tested against Su-27 and MKK). J-10B is going to be...

If that's the best that some of the "random forum analysts" can come up with then Richard Fisher has nothing to worry about :yahoo:

I suppose you have a point. India has access to technology from a wide range of sources and ToT can help domestic R&D.

^^ Posted numerous times already. Mods please delete.

No. These birds are aging cold war era relics. Only Russia operates these, but looking to replace them with more MiG29K

Indigenisation is not the same as R&D'ing technolgies and systems to upgrade with. The upgrades were R&D by Russia. Installing upgraded systems R&D by somebody else doesn't count. Same as above. Avionics were R&D by Israel. How much R&D did India contribute to these new avionics...

Who said anything about replacing humans with computers. Unmanned fighters can simply mean that there is no pilot in the actual aircraft - it can still be controlled from a remote location.

You don't know the performance spec of J-10B - ur just speculating. But you're kind of right, J-10B is not in same league because it is a single engine medium fighter whereas Rafale, Eurofighter and Super Hornet are twin engine heavy fighters. Who is doing these upgrades for M2K, MiG-29...

Please tell me what AESA radar is going to be used to upgrade MKI?

Thats quite true, and very often you will find that it's the other way round i.e. Other countries weapons programs are to counter what the US already has.

Those two pictures aren't even the same. The top one just looks like a Eurofighter with cropped wings/canards and 2 tail fins. The bottom one looks like a F-35 clone. ^^ ATD-X also looks like F-35 clone.

Ching Kuo is a Taiwanese plane. Definitely not Korean