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    Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

    If this is indeed a targeted attack by Israel then they are no longer “arab light” or the “lesser grey” in the conflict but sunk deep to the level of the terrorists they are fighting. absolute atrocious scenes at the hospital.
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    Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

    lets wait for confirmation that the attack was not a Hamas stockpile blowing up. Media is quick to draw conclusions and social media is full of fake news and rumors. Not only do I not expect Israel to sink so low morally. also strategically it is about the dumbest move that they could ever...
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    Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

    A consistent. 10 to 1 trade. If negotiations fall through, we kill 50 of yours for each of ours. Seems better to me. Ah well. They have to forego their 100 to 1 anyway. Total incarcerated palestinians is 5000? That would be 25 to 1 if a deal of all prisoners released vs all hostages freed is made.
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    Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

    Why are the israelis insane enough to agree a 1000 to 1 swap? Doesn’t this reward and boost hostage taking tactics?? Valuing your own more, sure, but a 1000 to 1?? That is now also what is expected as a “bar” for negotiations.
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    Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

    So many posters were cheering for russia which attacked HUNDREDS of medical facilities in ukraine. I assume they have no problem if Israel does the same? Atleast Israel gave a warning to evacuate the north. https://www.ft.com/content/0fda1689-3c5e-49c7-ac84-15c10008eca5 “One of the Hamas...
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    Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

    Dead palestinians is a bonus for hamas. They can parade them for the media while remaining hidden behind women and children. They consistently do this by firing terror rockets from behind human shields. But they went too far with their 9/11 like terror attacks. Murdering hundreds of...
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    Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

    USA never managed to properly deal with the vietcong tunnels. Israel will also have a hard time. i wonder what tactics/techniques they deviced (which after croos border attacks and hezbollah 2006, it really should have prioritized)...
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    Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

    That would be actually rewarding terrorists and hamas terrorist act. Ofcourse that should be off the table.
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    Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

    Ofcourse not. That why the west will pressure Israel (“arab light” ) into restraint. It is just funny that so many posters cheering for russia (aleppo,grozny), or syria (hama) or turkey (armenia genocide) are now crying so hard when Israel does similar (well, on smaller scale/more restraint)...
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    Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

    Time for Hamas to make a move then? Release hostages for a ceasefire.
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    Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982_Hama_massacre Like I said. “Arab light”. If the jews would have changed their religion in 1947, there would be no palestinians, they would have been completely bulldozed under the sand with hardly an outcry from those that are crying so hard for justice...
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    Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

    Aaand Israel turns on the water again…to no suprise. Aaand egypt gets to open crossing for humanitarian aid….to no suprise. Again, Israel did not go “full arab” but is showing restraint. Now lets see if Hamas dares to defend North Gaza or does it continue to hide behind women and children.
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    Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

    Perhaps Hamas can release the civilians taken in their terrorist attack? Then Israel can renew water supply. Its weird. Gazans voted in majority for a terror organisation. This terror organisation then commits hundreds/thousands of terror attacks on israel (each unguided rocket on civilian...
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    Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67054825.amp What a way to garner “support for the cause” Hamas…
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    Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

    Come on egypt. Open your borders to take in refugees so that hamas has to defend Gaza without hiding behind thousands of children.
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    Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

    What aid? Its in the few millions compared to 700 million! to palestine in 2023. Plenty of Un resolution support. Buying and selling military arms is not “aid”. You act like we give all that for free?
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    Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

    Bullshit. Much of it goes through UN channels. Palestinians get massive funds. We (dutch even help fund done of their harbors), let alone whole EU wide. Palestinian life expectancy and infant mortality rates are better then many other arab countries around it (like egypt). Much higher then...
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    Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

    Biggest financial humanitarian aid donor to palestine is the EU…. From wiki: Since 1993 the European Commission and the EU member-states combined have been by far the largest aid contributor to the Palestinians
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    Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

    It is not fear of hezbollah but fear of escalation. If israel flattens lebanon in response, iran might feel forced to act from syria and yemen. When Iran goes heavy like that, USA might feel pushed to step in. And then the whole region will ignite.
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    Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

    Being accused of anti-semitism, or fear of being accused of so, and guilt about the holocaust, allows Israel a lot of freedom others do not have the luxury of. Also, palestinians and arabs are mixed with terrorism and aggression a lot. They really lose a lot of sympathy/support because of this.
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