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Do you think that PAF / CAC did not know the strengths and weaknesses of the RD-93 -- when they built the JF-17 around this engine? Ofcoarse they did - and much better than anyone on this board. Do you think they overlooked the fact that the JF-17 will not always be able to fly in clean...

The only official comment ref SAAB was from the defence minister saying that they would be asked to check the repair. All the rest like SAAB team at Kamra etc etc is based on anonymous posters on forums like this without even a single media source as backup -- not worth repeating or commenting...

Time to copy / paste this post from a couple of pages ago........... For those who continue to try to convince us that 1 SAAB was destroyed and 2 SAABS were damaged (interestingly in earlier posts these same people had made iron clad claims that 2 were destroyed and one damaged?!?) - a few...

Pakistan Army’s Chief of the Army Staff, Gen Ashfaq Pervez Kayani, will be visiting Moscow in the coming days, following which Russian President Vladimir Putin will make a two-day official visit to Pakistan starting October 2, during which Putin will meet his Pakistani counterpart Asif Ali...

This 'report' is just reffering to 'some reports' ie those urdu ones already posted -- and simply speculating that if these reports are correct the damage to PAF would be $200 million. To twist this into - the paper is saying that PAF has actualy suffered $200 million loss is a stretch to say...

For those who continue to try to convince us that 1 SAAB was destroyed and 2 SAABS were damaged (interestingly in earlier posts these same people had made iron clad claims that 2 were destroyed and one damaged?!?) - a few questions..... 1. The PAF spokesman repeatedly said only one aircraft...

People realy need to stop worrying about the JF-17's RD93 engine. The JF-17 was designed with this engine in mind - it was the first choice, not the second or third choice. It's thrust and performance is therefore just fine for the platform as you can see from airshow performances, comments from...

I think we need to show some patience. According to the last timeline given by a PAF ACM -- Pakistan will have 36-40 FC-20's by 2016 (afm interview) -- that date is still 4 years away. Given the limited number of F-16's PAF has bought and the procurement plans of India -- I think there can be...

What sort of jibberish is this? This is your list of reasons why the next war will be between US and India?? Looks like your teacher spanked you so hard that she did some permanant damage to your brain. Regarding number of posts - doing lots more posts than me does not mean anything if your...

Not sure why moderators allow abusive posts like this. Interesting that you say 'your country' ie you do not associate Pakistan as being your own country -- obviously you now see your self as born and bred American. You go further by calling Pakistan a 'sh-it hole' which shows your true colours...

Please do share links for where this particular PAF spokesman has 'changed his story'. Initialy and breifly it was reported that there was no damage - Since then every report I have seen - he says the same - 1 aircraft damaged. As for question about smoke -- ok so now 2 Saabs have been toasted...

Ifs buts and maybes. So how come the same PAF spokesman you are reffering to is quoted as saying 'slight' damage to 1 aircraft -- and I can give you links .......... e-paper pakistantoday 17th august, 2012

So with all these wonderfull vantage points -- you think someone may have spotted 2 Saabs going up in smoke?? or did someone hide them in their pocket.

I can say I've seen the full fleet of Saabs lined up without a scratch on them with someone holding up todays newspaper on channel XYZ -- are you going to believe me without a link??

So you think the base commander sat there and thought - O crap - I've cocked up big - so better go and take a bullit in the arm to show I did my best ---- OR ---- do you think he may have thought - I am not going to sit here and wait for the wireless to tell me what has happened - I am going to...

In the same way - I can understand enemies of PAF hoping for maximum damage regardless of the facts.

Thanks for posting this. Shahid Lateef specificaly says that there was only 1 Awacs in the hanger that they tried to get close to and yet people are still in insisting that 2 were destroyed and a third damaged. He also goes into some detail about the response and again says it was quick and...

Once again - this report cannot be found anywhere else. There are 2 douzen reports confirming the Defence Ministers detailed comments. So are we to believe this one report and believe that the defence minister is lying, the PAF spokesman was lying and the ACM was lying when he praises the timely...

Absolutely amazing analysis by some. In the same post the Naval base comander at Mehran is called a yellow bellied coward (for not leading from the front) AND in the same breath - the Minhas base commander is told that he has no right to exist on the planet -- because he did lead from the front...

Islamabad to send damaged plane to Sweden for repairs Saturday, 18 August 2012 09:54 Share ISLAMABAD: The defence minister of Pakistan has conceded that one of the Airborne Early Warning and Control (AEW and C) System air craft of SAAB-2000 category has been hit at its nose during the attack...