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https://corporalfrisk.com/2018/07/16/a-further-look-at-the-gabriel-5/ 622 million USD for 112 active missile, adn 8 for exercise.

you want to be called haram or Kafir ?

in this kind of circumstances, usually who would win ?

wait, the remaining bremen class is just 1 ship, we are going to buy just this one ship ? or we are gonna add another secondhand frigate from another counrtry ? wouldn't it be another nightmare in term of logistics ?

it just doesnt make any sense, why would they go for less quality, secondhand asset procurement, just so they can say that they reached MEF III target ? its just stupid, the thing is, we have the budget to go for high quality, and new equipment. if they do this because china pressure, then its...

sir, even if we had our experients in developing KFX, even in the next 25 years, we still need guidance from other country, there's just no way that we could develop it onn our own, and that will create another dependency. we need allies in developing such technologies, and KFX is a good first...

all this Russian and US jets in our inventory thing, how long do we plan to keep doing this ? its gonna cost us even when we reach Rp. 200T in our budget, because seems like those people in our MoD and Parlemen want to make an arm race in the AU, for the sake of geopolitics. sooner or later this...

sorry bung, didnt mean to do that to you. just annoyed by those people who thinks you're a fan boy, even when you're just being a realist. btw, we cant just hanging to the fact that US embargoed us, now from the situations, you can clearly see that US is on our side, Aussie is on our side, and...

I dont think I saw it with wrong perspective. I just saw it from realistic perpective. and how is the embargo thing even relevant now, when China is poking us in Natuna, and they already has flankers, and when you suggested to buy US F18 or F15 to counter them, its called fanboying ? If I saw...

I completely agree. the thing is, what @Chestnut said is undeniable, most of our air force fleet is F16, hence the most realisitic thing to do is buy more US jets. besides, it can link with our radars and Navy ships. if things like this called fanboying, then pushing the deal for flanker even...

as a cultured Indonesian boy, I think the sentences you're looking for is "lebih besar pasak daripada tiang". am I right ? @Indos says from the KFX program we get the technological share, and enough knowledge to build our own stealth in the future. some other member says we dont. so which one is...

just the way chinese are happy that you're buying their ships (KD Keris) and then they still get free tickets to poke through your EEZ? you dont say.

I read in one of the comment of alman helvas post, said that the USD 2 billion, our share in KFX program dont include the 50 jets we're gonna get. is it true ? I always thought that the contract includes the 50 planes. silly me

hey, all this talk about procuring F15 or SHornet. how about our naval strike capability ? does US willing to supply us the Harpoon for our jets ?

so, this implies that we should be more careful about procuring local arm products like maung, because we need to make sure the quality first ? and Prabowo need to make sure the quality of maung before buying in bulk ? how does that implies Prabowo doesnt know his job as menhan ? am I getting it...

after watching this, I got the impression that Mrs. Connie thinks that Pak Prabowo doesnt know how to do his job. she said that before Prabowo decided to look out for typhoon, he need to consult to Kasau first, to talk about what TNI AU need. I think, of course Mr. Prabowo did that already, he...

this is actually what Im trying to say. thanks @Gen3115

thats why I said, there must be some offering Airbus made for DI, whether it ToT for maintenance, or basically any offer that made the jet worth to considered. cause, there's just no way that we are going to buy that jet in normal situation.

I believe there must be. it just doesnt make sense that MOD out of nowhere just going for pricy jet like typhoon. besides, Dahnil when asked about Sukhoi procurement a while ago, he said that prabowo is looking for jets that affordable for us (maintenance cost, etc), it would not cause any...

I cant wait for the responses from Mr. Dahnil as MoD spokesman. is it gonna be another denial or ambiguity, or they gonna confirm it.