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  1. MehrotraPrince

    India likely to sign $20 bn fighter jet deal only under next government

    Not correct. They not only will survive but flourish, this is a purely misconception that this deal is lifeline for them. Reason is quite simple, fighter plane is just one product of Dassault and they already have French air-force as their primary customer. If the deal goes down then I see just...
  2. MehrotraPrince

    Saudi Arabia expresses interest in JF-17 co-production with Pakistan.

    Yes but still Russian engineers assisted them, can it be said about China and US?? I doubt. Ok let us take case by case: F100-PW220 and F110-GE100 - Both are based on same base engine, to solve the issue of stall-stagnation and extremely short life and high maintenance (at that time). GE came...
  3. MehrotraPrince

    Saudi Arabia expresses interest in JF-17 co-production with Pakistan.

    Yes but only if they are compatible + decade of experience (France and USA, both in terms of engine and airframe). They did it just for experimental and study purpose. As far as F-16 and F-15 is concerned then it is very wise to remember that from the start of project itself 2 engines were...
  4. MehrotraPrince

    Saudi Arabia expresses interest in JF-17 co-production with Pakistan.

    Try to fit a 1000 CC engine into 500 CC bike!! It won't fit. For that to accomplish you need lot of time, money and structural changes. This is purely misconception that you can fit any engine to any fighter or can upgrade it with other engines available in open market. Please understand that...
  5. MehrotraPrince

    IAF moves to build Swiss trainer jets at home as number of new pilots drops

    They should only be concerned about their operational requirement, whether HAL assemble it or not, whether its imported or home made. Managing finances is the job of MOD or Finance ministry. Till few years back IAF was reluctant to support indigenous products, which is a shame. Initially...
  6. MehrotraPrince

    IAF moves to build Swiss trainer jets at home as number of new pilots drops

    Question is not that whether they have capacity or not, but question is why should they? Its not their work. Manufacturing or developing any military platform is totally technical and business oriented field, IAF don't have technical expertise even upto level of HAL, leave DRDO or NAL. Defence...
  7. MehrotraPrince

    IAF moves to build Swiss trainer jets at home as number of new pilots drops

    Please read the whole article Important point to note is that they are not independent units, they regularly take assistance from HAL engineers. Which means its a collaborative effort, where minor work or less complex work is done by IAF while complex work is left to HAL, NAL and DRDO.
  8. MehrotraPrince

    HAL pegs price of Tejas fighter at Rs 162 crore

    Source for what?? Su-30MKI came into existence after 2002. If he is talking about Su-30 then also he is wrong since IAF never used it during Kargil war. Only Mig series, Jaguars and Mirages were used.
  9. MehrotraPrince

    HAL pegs price of Tejas fighter at Rs 162 crore

    Around $ 6.18M for F-404 to be used in Tejas MK1 Contract date 2004 GE Awarded $105 Million Development Contract from India | Press Release Around $ 8M for F-414 to be used in Tejas MK2
  10. MehrotraPrince

    IAF moves to build Swiss trainer jets at home as number of new pilots drops

    Private players will never invest in big project straight away, they need to have experience and expertise that can only be gained through these type of projects or getting involved in big projects like Rafale through small and non critical component on small scale. Sorry to disappoint you but...
  11. MehrotraPrince

    IAF moves to build Swiss trainer jets at home as number of new pilots drops

    Then firstly a team should submit detailed report about planning and assembly cost with respect to cost of import, special clause should also be made for imposing fine if assembling cost exceeds import cost. Also invite private players if they are willing, lets create some competition for HAL.
  12. MehrotraPrince

    IAF moves to build Swiss trainer jets at home as number of new pilots drops

    And by the way whats the point in engaging uncalled resources when cost of imported and assembled will be same with no knowledge gain? What will IAF or nation gain from it..........big EGO :crazy:. IAF should learn something from Navy who always plan for future, and compare the indigenous...
  13. MehrotraPrince

    HAL pegs price of Tejas fighter at Rs 162 crore

    Yes now you are right. We could have got more know how about RD-33 series had we opted for that, but then we chose the best engine and no need to say that GE engines are better than RD-33 in most of parameters if not all. In a decade or so (or may be before 2020 and that too fully certified and...
  14. MehrotraPrince

    HAL pegs price of Tejas fighter at Rs 162 crore

    That's the problem you are not reading fine lines, TOT is not about new engines neither about parts which are needed for upgrades. Only the service agency has changed from Russians to HAL, original parts manufacturer is till same, that means parts which are needed for upgrades are still coming...
  15. MehrotraPrince

    HAL pegs price of Tejas fighter at Rs 162 crore

    You missed my other points about why we are still getting(will get in future) Rafale, we need certain technologies either in the form of full transfer or in form of joint ventures like engine which is the most critical component. Pure indigenous effort will take atleast 1 more decade or so, its...
  16. MehrotraPrince

    HAL pegs price of Tejas fighter at Rs 162 crore

    No, no Mig-29 engine is built in India at present nor will be built in future, we have only maintenance and over haul facility. You can check it any where including Russian as well as Indian gov. sites, we will not find any mention of RD 33 series engine. Simple reason is that for such a small...
  17. MehrotraPrince

    HAL pegs price of Tejas fighter at Rs 162 crore

    Sorry off topic but you are supposed to surrender or don't involve your air force :lol: :rofl:
  18. MehrotraPrince

    HAL pegs price of Tejas fighter at Rs 162 crore

    Su-30MKI engine---------Yes HAL makes them excluding core components which still comes from Russia. Mig-29 series engine-------No, engine is not built in HAL.
  19. MehrotraPrince

    HAL pegs price of Tejas fighter at Rs 162 crore

    No, let me explain why? If Rafale is Apple then Tejas is Orange. Rafale Vs Tejas 1. One has medium combat range while other has short combat range. 2. One has heavy payload capacity while other has medium payload capacity. 3. One has all the electronic goodies while other has less. Other...
  20. MehrotraPrince

    HAL pegs price of Tejas fighter at Rs 162 crore

    Because @ $ 45 million upgrade for Mirage also include weapon package as well as other spare parts, since this is last upgrade for our Mirages, while Tejas MK1 just cost $ 26 million ( aircraft only, excluding weapons, spares, support systems and one need to remember that Mirage is already...
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