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True, they're going to fight tooth and nail to retain their monopoly. I sincerely hope DM takes a strong decision to involve pvt playes in a major way in the Tejas program starting with major structure assembly and gradually to complete airframe assembly by the time Mk-2 is ready for series...

1. The LCA program is already successful. The govt is not going to stop at the 120+ plus figure, its a fact. The question is whether the govt will go for more Mk-1As or order the MK-2 (it depends on HAL to complete the later's development) At the most we can see is SAAB co-operating with HAL for...

Have you considered setting up of 2nd LCA production line with help of private cos?

Rafale negotiations concluded according to Flight Global report. Talks about 36 + the other 90 jets in the 2nd phase as per Dassault CEO Trappier https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/indian-deal-for-36-rafales-moves-forward-426617/ ""New Delhi is in the final stages of a process that...

IJT Sitara LSPs? Looks like the spin trials were successful completed.

Rafale Deal By June, Says India’s Defence Minister This could finally be it. India’s chronically delayed effort to contract for new medium fighter jets could finally be at an end. While France’s monumental four-year endeavour to get India to sign up for Rafale jets has fluttered endlessly...

This is a 2015 report- "ADA agreed to buy eight F414 engines in 2012 for an undisclosed amount, while HAL "initialled" an agreement for 99 additional engines for around USD800 million. The latter deal will be signed once the LCA Mk 2 programme is advanced. It envisions the initial import of a...

You misunderstood me. What I meant was that the offset does not affect the fly-away cost but rather the fly-away affects the offsets. So the fly-away cost has to be fixed first before calculating the latter. It was in response to your argument that the fly-away cost was not re-negotiated. Any...

Yes, the 10T is a rounded up figure i guess. But even then the report suggests that an increase in payload is expected (otherwise they wouldn't have mentioned anything about the payload) What are the chances of SNECMA agreeing to integrate the new engine for the Indian jets? AFAIK the M-88-2E4...

That's great. @Picdelamirand-oil Maybe you can shed some light on the cost of setting up bases for Rafales in India? According to Sajeev Jino, it takes only $100 Million for 2 bases. i argue that it could be upwards of $500 Million for one base itself. What do you think will be a realistic...

Could you share the source that says < Euro 1.2 Billion for creation of base infrastructure? Dassault Rafale, tender | News & Discussions [Thread 2]

Could you share with us where Dassault has asked us for $1.4 Billion for creation of base infrastructure? Dassault Rafale, tender | News & Discussions [Thread 2]

Unlike the Russian jets, the Rafales need much more facilities for maintaining them properly. Hence the two bases will have to be adequately upgraded for these western jets. Yes, the basic infrastructure exists including weapons and spare depots. But they are designed for Russian inventory and...

If that were the case, I would agree with you. But the deal for 36 Rafales have no relation with MMRCA competition. Its a pure G2G agreement and the prices have been re-negotiated. Even the version we're getting now is totally different from what was initially offered in the MMRCA competition...

You're wrong there, the French had promised to give the Rafales with prices comparable to that given to the French Airforce. According to SENAT report : Rafale C costs $78 Million and Rafale B (trainer) costs $82 Million (extrapolating the figures fro 2014). The $85 Million seems to be a...

I thought the 88-4E engine has the same thrust as the 88-2. The report says that we will get a 10T payload capacity rather than the 9.5T. Doesn't that mean we opted for the M-88-3 engine giving 90KN thrust? That would explain the additional costs for customization that include bigger intakes and...

Both the pics show Denel NTW-20 and not the Vidhwansak. BTW, do you know the date on which the picture of the AMR at the Rhino stall was clicked?

What about the cost of replacing the engines, MLUs, spares etc? Spares would be costlier for Rafales that the MKIs as the latter will be mostly made in India under the new agreement with Russia (hopefully starting 2017). Also, what all comes under "operating costs"? Does it include regular...

Do you really think the total lifetime cost of operating (including operating costs, maintenance and upgrades) the Rafale is lower than Su-30MKI? I know we have already covered this topic before, but can't seem to find them. BTW, Sajeev Jino being funny again...

Griffin LGB from IAI