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    Indoneasia in $25 billion deal with France for Fighters and Subs

    Actually according to the earlier French article, it is the negotiations regarding the Rafale jets that is already in the advanced stage.. and the qty is for 36 units instead of 48... While for the subs and frigates, it is still less certain as "Indonesia is also still considering other options...
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    Indoneasia in $25 billion deal with France for Fighters and Subs

    Our request for F-35 has been denied, not that there was much chance of it in the first place.. But it also seems that the US is reluctant to offer F-15s, perhaps it's still considered too sensitive for the likes of Australia and Singapore... What's on offer is the F-16V and likely the F-18...
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    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Down from 48 to 36...? Maybe necessary to make room for the 15 ex Austrian Typhoons..? https://www.cnbcindonesia.com/news/20201203100753-8-206514/sstt-ada-kabar-dari-austria-soal-prabowo-borong-eurofighter Then again... it's also very highly likely that nothing will come out of these talks in...
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    Indonesia in talks with Naval Group for variant of Riachuelo-class submarine

    I wonder how much of a difference this class of Modified Scorpene is compared to the Scorpenes in service with the Indian and Malaysian Navies...? Regardless, it's unlikely a decision will be made soon... Afterall we already signed a contract with DSME for a second batch of DSME-1400...
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    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Sorry bro, don't have access to it too... don't understand French either.. 😅 And what did they say...? anything new...?
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    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Aamiiin...! 🙏🙏 Really hoping this isn't something that was "lost in translation" causing all kinds of misunderstandings and wishful thinking... :laughcry:Let's see what Alman has to tweet tomorrow morning... :laugh: Btw... below is the original French article, unfortunately it's behind a...
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    Indonesia Defence Forum

    This launch actually of reminds of an article I read earlier this year... so I got looking for it, here it is : https://tekno.tempo.co/read/1311007/indonesia-cina-kerja-sama-pengembangan-teknologi-roket Indonesia-Cina Kerja Sama Pengembangan Teknologi Roket Reporter: Zacharias Wuragil Editor...
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    Indonesian Strategic Industries

    Whoa ! Cool ! 😲 And I thought that this project is dead in the water with Lapan seemingly having their hands full with projects like N219, RHAN-122, and their new Observatory in Kupang... So glad that this project is still moving somewhat... though the pace is soooo sloooowww... So far this is...
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    China solves Freeport’s $3 billion problem in Indonesia

    Well... to be fair, I don't really think this is just due to us now being a democracy... but more like the government is now enforcing it's own regulations more seriously... and cracking down on possible corruptions in the process (which other forms of government can also do the same if they...
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    China solves Freeport’s $3 billion problem in Indonesia

    We have required that Freeport build a smelter for years! As this is mandatory... But they keep on stalling it forever and eventually we had to force them to sell a majority share in it (now 51% by Indonesian entities + 49% still owned by Freeport).. But still the stalling the continues (now due...
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    West Papua 'becoming a hunting ground' as Indonesian forces open fire on student protesters

    What Aussie and American free direction...? had the Aussies ever freed their Aborigines to form their own country...? had the Americans ever freed their Native Americans to form their own country..? :crazy:
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    West Papua 'becoming a hunting ground' as Indonesian forces open fire on student protesters

    Yeah... Just because they are currently more worried with China's rise than us... it's understandable that they would prefer to have a more solid buffer state between China and themselves... and for that, they have somewhat tempered down their media attacks on us regarding Papua nowadays...
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    [直播]嫦娥五号任务特别报道 [Live]Chang‘e-5 Lunar Mission Special Report

    I am very impressed with the level of coverage of the rocket launch! 😲 I hoped for it, but considering this is China, wasn't expecting it.. as China is usually more secretive compared to NASA / SpaceX... That flame trench live cam is so exciting to see, it's a first I think... RIP flame trench...
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    Indonesia Defence Forum

    Lol.. no need to panic.. 😁 tis just a reminder of the other 5G jet in the market.. As the saying goes.. when one door closes, another opens... I personally still prefer we stick with KFX for the medium term, and grow it from the basic Block 1 till the planned vlo block 3...
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    Indonesia Defence Forum

    C'mon you guys.. don't you all be sulking like that just coz Uncle Sam ain't giving us F-35s.. 😁 If our craving for Gen-5 is so bad, this here can still be our fix eh? 😎
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    China's Malacca dilemma: How India controls Indian Ocean chokepoints

    Why the heck would we want India to blockade the Malacca, Sunda, or Lombok straits..?? If I recall, we already rejected their offer of joint patrols in the Malacca straits.. much less in the Sunda and Lombok straits which is deep in our territory..
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    [HISTORIC DAY] TODAY NOV 19, CHINA AMENDMENTS THEIR NEW DEFENCE LAW !! TO PROTECT OVERSEAS INTERESTS

    Thanks this is the clear answer I was seeking..! Simply because there are no PRC citizens there at the time...
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    [HISTORIC DAY] TODAY NOV 19, CHINA AMENDMENTS THEIR NEW DEFENCE LAW !! TO PROTECT OVERSEAS INTERESTS

    Well.. ok, then let me rephrase the question... let's say there's a riot overseas, and the local ethnic Chinese (citizens of that country) got hurt... but no PRC citizens were there or affected, would the PRC then intervene militarily as per this law...?
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    [HISTORIC DAY] TODAY NOV 19, CHINA AMENDMENTS THEIR NEW DEFENCE LAW !! TO PROTECT OVERSEAS INTERESTS

    The article says overseas Chinese citizens.. but your comment says overseas Chinese people.. that's a whole world of difference there.. there's nothing "grey" in it..
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    [HISTORIC DAY] TODAY NOV 19, CHINA AMENDMENTS THEIR NEW DEFENCE LAW !! TO PROTECT OVERSEAS INTERESTS

    Just to clarify.. is it "overseas Chinese people"(race/ethnic) or "overseas Chinese citizens"...?
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