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    Pakistan point of view on war crime trial : It’s not the right time

    Biharis enjoyed the status of special citizens when Pakistan Army was establishing their rule of carnage in '71. It was only after December 16, that Bengalis finally got the opportunity of some sweet revenge on Biharis. Neither of you was there in '71 and talk like you witnessed with your eyes...
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    Pakistan point of view on war crime trial : It’s not the right time

    Chopping head off a pilot who belong to the enemy armed forces is not the same as bayoneting months year old babies or raping Muslim women or indiscriminately gunning down civilians. Just as a curiosity, was the head in the 1st picture of the pilot?
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    BD Government to seek Evidence from Pakistan and USA - War Crime 1971

    If you were the leader of Pakistan, and I was the leader of Bangladesh, then there could have been a confederation:cheers: (even though the likelihood of that is near 0% considering public sentiment in Bangladesh) but with either your or our politicians, it would be no better than pre-71...
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    BD Government to seek Evidence from Pakistan and USA - War Crime 1971

    I appreciate the fact that you acknowledge this issue should be resolved, unlike many other Pakistanis who think Bangladesh should forgive these criminals or sometimes even not recognizing there was any crime! People like Al Zakir duly work as their cheerleaders time to time:bunny: Too many high...
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    BD Government to seek Evidence from Pakistan and USA - War Crime 1971

    The dispute of Bangla and Urdu would have never divided anyone if it was dealt smartly like they have settled language issue in India and Canada. Jinnah went to Bangladesh in 1948 to resolve the issue??!! Yet he added fuel on the fire by arrogantly declaring "Urdu and Urdu shall alone be...
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    Bangladesh is secular, not moderate Muslim country: FM

    The problem, most people who are involved in jamaati type of political organizations in Bangladesh are completely bastards and opportunists. They are no way good Muslims. That gives the opportunity to so called moderates to back off from the association of islam. The issue is Bangladesh is a...
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    Bangladesh is secular, not moderate Muslim country: FM

    I understand you might have been answering to someone's fanatic comments. But you see islamic brotherhood does not mean supporting any criminal muslim in his crime against non-muslims. That's Islam-just and unbiased. No judiciary laws in Islam discriminates against non-muslims. in fact it is...
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    Bangladesh is secular, not moderate Muslim country: FM

    What does Pakistan do? it's aim is to please USA rather than its own people.
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    BD Government to seek Evidence from Pakistan and USA - War Crime 1971

    I am not blaming pakistan or the innocent non-racist pakistanis who exist in the population of pakistan. we were pakistan till 25th of march 1971. blame is on the pakistan army in '71 and west pakistani politicians, specifically zulfiqar ali bhutto.
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    BD Government to seek Evidence from Pakistan and USA - War Crime 1971

    Oh Mr Munshi, you know what they say about Israel? That Israel is the victim!:rofl: We know who are these people advocating for Israel. but who are your "they"?
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    BD Government to seek Evidence from Pakistan and USA - War Crime 1971

    I do not know your source for that. But I do realize if what you say is true, then it completely makes sense. You see Sheikh Mujib was arrested in the darkness of the night(cause Pakistan army did not have the courage to arrest him infront of Bengali mass in the daylight!in fact the brave SSG...
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    BD Government to seek Evidence from Pakistan and USA - War Crime 1971

    Because, USA was Pakistan's main ally in 1971 and US diplomats were present in Bangladesh then. They wrote telegrams and reports to the government. and for obvious reason those were kept secret. When USA was advocating Pakistan's point of view in UN, US diplomats termed Pakistan Army's activity...
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    BD Government to seek Evidence from Pakistan and USA - War Crime 1971

    Yes we must. But as I said not on the expense of criminals getting away with no punishment. Seriously, I don't see how any sane Muslim would try to oppose the trial of criminals, whether they were their own people or others. Qaid-e-Azam actually started the rift in 1948 with the language...
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    BD Government to seek Evidence from Pakistan and USA - War Crime 1971

    UN To Help Bangladesh War Crimes Trial Planning DHAKA, Bangladesh (AFP)--The U.N. said Wednesday that some of its top war crimes experts would advise Bangladesh on how to try those accused of murder and rape during its bloody 1971 liberation struggle. The government of Prime Minister...
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    BD Government to seek Evidence from Pakistan and USA - War Crime 1971

    One person may coin certain terms but the idea is generated through a process that involves more than one Allama Iqbal. Lahore Resolution, the formal basis of Pakistan, was proposed by Sher e Bangla A K Fazlul Huq. that resolution contained the proposal of more than one Muslim STATES in south...
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    BD Government to seek Evidence from Pakistan and USA - War Crime 1971

    The jutifications for 71 need not to be provided by me:) That was created slowly and steadily by West Pakistanis for 24 years. There was no single justification. There were too many, all of them defied rules of Islam.
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    BD Government to seek Evidence from Pakistan and USA - War Crime 1971

    Racial discrimination is not a small matter as you are assuming there. The complications are huge. Bengalis even did not tolerate the British ill-treatment, so no way we could have been comfortable by the uneven Punjabi dominance. Bengalis were in the forefront of liberation movement against...
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    BD Government to seek Evidence from Pakistan and USA - War Crime 1971

    Islamic land? brother, I think you actually know, what happened in Pakistan in 47-71 was anything but islam. Do you listen to songs? surely there are pakistanis even in this thread who are fan of music. Because of someone's influence I nowadays avoid music. But the point is at the time of Ayub...
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    BD Government to seek Evidence from Pakistan and USA - War Crime 1971

    Good thank you. But this does not apply in '71 context. I don't think Mohammad(Sallallahu alaihi wasallam) ever advised Muslims to do nothing if other misguided Muslim kill them and rape their women.
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    BD Government to seek Evidence from Pakistan and USA - War Crime 1971

    There was racial discrimination all along. Who asked for forgiveness for what Mukti Bahini did? if you don't remember a hadith word by word then you should not quote it and use it in the wrong context. that's a big big sin. In 71 Pakistan killed Bengalis and then we fought according to...
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