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    Pakistan proposes creation of Islamic Economic Union

    It does'nt matter, even a exterme secular state like turkey is coming back to islam. The problams with us muslim countries links somewhat to ecmonay. If we have better education,teaching kids about the real islam, if we have a good healthcare system, if we are all togahter as theone whole ummah...
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    IAF to induct armed pilotless aerial vehicles

    UCAV. Unmanned combat arieal vechile. Basically a UAV with a few missiles hooked on it. You launch missiles like you would give orders to a UAV. No mounvering or cobra stuff yet. They have yet to make a actual UCAV which would be by 2008 i belive
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    Pakistan proposes creation of Islamic Economic Union

    Maybe we'll train their imams and have some instutions in indialinked with the OIC. It'll make the relations a biit better, but leave that for the future for now. We must first get our acts stright. The points said above are easy to say but hard to follow. Every pakistani leader has said it...
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    Who will reform Islam?

    No such thing as reform islam. They can all try like their forefathers did, but all failed. If you read the end paragraph, it says how when turkey, france takes away basic democercy rights having the hijib banned, no one says anything. But if we have something like the hudood ordainence in...
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    Islam and science

    The sealed nector. Many scholars agree that this by far is one of the best written biographry of the prophet Muhammed(PBUH).
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    Islam and science

    The bible, The Quran, and science. This is a very good book written by Maurice Bucaille, who later converted to islam. It was translated into various langauges and was popular across the muslim world
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    Islam and science

    Scientists commenting on Quranic versus
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    Islam and science

    I highly suggest that you all read that FAQ site i gave above, it has very very detailed asnwers proven form the versus of Quran and today's science, it also has answers about the hijib and other things such as the bible and Quran. Must read i would say :coffee:
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    Islam and science

    ^ ^ Exectly, when the taliben was fighting the USSR, the US called the mujhadeens, they called them freedomfighters of islam, jihidis, the CIA trained them, US gave the their advanced weaponery and money. Now that the same people US used to call freedom fighters, are now being called...
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    Nearly 80 killed as Pakistan bombs madrassa

    Bro, i understand what you are saying, i is infact very hard to control one selfs when we see someone degrading our religon, but it is up to us muslims to show them the real exapmle of a good muslim. We talk about how islam is the perfect religon. The thing is that we as muslims know that it is...
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    Islam and science

    Agreed bro, agreed. In our countries if a women does'nt wear a hijib, our mullahs go balistaic, yet they don't deal with much much more serious issues concerning islam. We need to educate not only students but the whole population all over again through the media, books, newspapers and ofcourse...
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    Nearly 80 killed as Pakistan bombs madrassa

    Well no one is saying that we should close them down today or that we should close them down forever. We should train more techers, have more schools, andthey should either be free or cheap enough for the poor to send their kids to. Madrassas won't really be closed down, they will just be moved...
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    Islam and science

    (Qur'an, 51:47) Quran talking about the expension of the universe 1400 years ago. (Qur'an, 71:15-16) Quran talking about the moon as being the reflecter of the light given from the sun and the sun being the one that is always burning. It's in the book i gave the link to
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    Islam and science

    Salam'/ hi Well we were talking about how important knowledge is in islam in anotherthread so i decided to open a new one for this purpose. The thread is about islam and science, i will post articels about it from various and would like other members to do the same. Let's tech others and...
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    Nearly 80 killed as Pakistan bombs madrassa

    Yaar, bhai, sister whatever. All i meant was that we close down madrassas and start teaching more islam into our public schools. Our future imams can go to public schools, get worldy eduction and religoues at the same time. This way they will be able to keep up to the world events. And since...
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    Training Emulator for JF-17

    Quite frankly a cocpit does'nt really tell anything about the plane, even the LCA has acocpit like that of a mordern american fight plane, but in realit, it has a hard time flying and amusing it's on air force. But nonetheless, JF-17 is one hell of a plane.
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    Nearly 80 killed as Pakistan bombs madrassa

    Some one said that they want madrassaras to be cloesd down. Frankly, iam with that person, as much as we as muslims would hate to do it, these days, people like bin laden are using islam as their sheilds and are disgracing us muslims around the world. What's sad it that sometimes, some...
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    Nearly 80 killed as Pakistan bombs madrassa

    But he ordered those AH-1's and if true that it was US that attacked, then mushy was the one that gave the grren light. Either way he is responible, he attacked his own people. As for "taliben" there, well out of 80, 30 of them were KIDS under 15 . Were they too terrorists?? Also there is...
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    Is Attacking Iran a Viable Option?

    US can't take on iraq and afghansitan, why would it go ahead and fight with another country. Also the only reason iran so proudly boasts about it's nuke progam is because they know that US won't attack them since they are busy in iraq and afghastian. That's probabley the reason why N.korea did...
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    Silly question!!!!

    I think you are given nets to orginaze your beard in keep it neatly so it can fit under a gas mask etc. Also in islam you are only suppose to keep your beard as the size of fist. Longer then that you goota trim it.
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