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It is still classified. The version in the media is a "leaked report" to the Indian Express/ Times of India. The original papers are not accessable. So we cannot consider the version available in the media as authentic.

Its is still classified since one of the causes for the debacle mentioned in the report is political interference in military affairs. Nehru was playing around and put his pet fav Lt. General BJ Kaul, who was a clot. Kauls only qualification was his association with the Nehru family, and the...

Don't ridicule the Chinese for deficiencies caused by our military commanders and Nehru/ Menon combine. The 1962 PLA operations are a classical case for study and learning, and the dangers of politicising the armed forces a lesson for politicians of any country. The PLA operations were a...

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One would be forced to think that your assumption is based on prejudice than logical thinking and past incidents. Chola inident 1967 - this left the PLA smarting after suffering about 500 casulties. Sumdorong Chu valley 1986 - PLA were checkmated when IA countered Chinese attempts to intrude...

I was just trying to prove a point about the Canberra. Just a correction, the Mig-21 was SD by a ground based SAM not a MANPAD, and the Mig-27 flamed out.

Sir, So was the PAF. You'll flew the Americanese version called B-57.

Webby the article I posted just gives a general picture, I couldn't locate the ones that quoted the British/NATO generals directly blaming PA. I locate a reliable source and discuss that later. About the "peace deal" - the less said the better. The deal was aimed to by time to deal with the...

I know its hard to believe that one's nation is running with the hares and hunting with the hounds. The problem is the "trail" that the "hounds" leave is actually a highway. You have operated in Afghanistan, hence your comment is surprising. Maybe your buddies in the Paras, RM or sigint or...

Since Jana seems to be the only woman in PFF, here is something I penned down yesterday for my wife and friends.

Oh boy another pissing contest...RAW vs ISI:rolleyes: Let results speak for themselves.

Lol...every country faces the same problem.:rofl:

The end of a nostalgic journey for the good old Canberra. They don't make them as sturdy and dependable any more. Neo, In Kargil (1999), 2 Migs were downed by A2G missiles, while the good old Canberra flew back to its base, even after one engine was hit by a missile. MuradK sir, will...

That is a question many old timers can answer, like the Naokali massacre in 1946, the Muslim League archives could be of help. That was just an example, to show that people are caught with their pants down. Its a sane opinion. What would you prefer a peoples revolution or mullah raj? The...

Why the Pakistani Govt is such a hurry? It is inhumane to drag seriously ill patients in such a manner. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Pakistan_forcelifts_Samjhauta_Express_survivors/articleshow/1662455.cms

Muslims...(indian muslims in the Gujarat case) The Sangh Parivar is a word to collectively address BJP, VHP, RSS Bajrang Dal etc. It was a rant and not an argument on your part. Hence, I did not want to answer that point. You think the Congress and Commies are any different. Don't behave...

O.K charlie give your un-doctored list. The catalist in that case was burning 60 hindus in the Sabarmati. In this case there was no catalist. So your point is refusted. Wrong they (i.e the Sang orgs) were in power in the previous govt, the Lahore bus and peace process was started by them...

Guys, Please relax. Instead of trying to prove each others' theory right or wrong, it will be more pragmatic to analyse what does one aim and gain by attacking a train with Pak passengers on Indian soil? The Whys & Whats when answered and analysed may help to clear the fog. Let me start...

Is there anything that says that he is lying or is it disdain for him that you call him a jerk?

This may depend on the rules followed by the DGCA/FAA or equvalent authority. But this is possible only for decommissioned aircraft only, if I am not mistaken. Unfortunately, in India we do not have private owner of former fighter aircraft, because of the high cost and steep license fees...