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    Ousted Prime Minister Imran Khan Arrested: News and Discussion

    Even if Asim Munir's claims are true, then what is stopping him & establishment from meeting Imran Khan and de-escalating the situation? The only side that is losing in this conflict is the reputation of the army in the sight of the public. It's still not too late for Asim Munir to end this...
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    Ousted Prime Minister Imran Khan Arrested: News and Discussion

    Had the establishment not intervened, PTI might have lost the next election anyway and Imran Khan was going to be a one-term prime Minister. Yet, as with anything the establishment does, it backfires and scores own goal. PMLN was broken to form PMLQ, yet it came back? Just as hanging ZAB or...
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    Ousted Prime Minister Imran Khan Arrested: News and Discussion

    It's not extreme if you consider that more than one ethnic group has grievances towards the federation. The army has failed to end an insurgency in two provinces, those too are relatively small compared to what can ignite if anything were to happen to Imran Khan. Let's not forget that IMF is...
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    Ousted Prime Minister Imran Khan Arrested: News and Discussion

    Totally agree. The US military is professional force + conscription recruit during large wars like WWII. There is no question of civilian supremacy as many Presidents, Senators, Congress members have served in the military. Furthermore the Chief of Army Staff has no operational control of the...
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    Ousted Prime Minister Imran Khan Arrested: News and Discussion

    That's what I've been saying. Something good will come out of this. I believe Imran Khan will be back. The establishment is making its final stand, but will be reined in. They can't fight economic bankruptcy and it's effects on their own wallets and those of 200 million people. It's just a...
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    Ousted Prime Minister Imran Khan Arrested: News and Discussion

    Don't give up. The establishment wants the people to fear them. They will arrest, torture, silence people. They cannot do this against 200 million people. The more people supporting PTI, the more difficult it will be for them. Remember, they too need money and depend on paid soldiers to do...
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    War Veteran Air Cdre Sajjad Haider insulted by islamabad police

    This is one critical mistake of Imran Khan, which I hope he has learned from. He thought that if bureacrats and police are left alone without political interference, they will magically become good overnight. A leopard doesn't change its spots. Once corrupt, almost always corrupt. The...
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    Ousted Prime Minister Imran Khan Arrested: News and Discussion

    @RescueRanger Is there anyway to expose the names and addresses of the COAS, Corp Commanders and their families? This information should be spread. These monsters have no issue gunning down civilians. They shouldn't be allowed to live under the illusion that they & their families are safe from...
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    Ousted Prime Minister Imran Khan Arrested: News and Discussion

    I'm actually the son of Pakistani migrants and you can even find my posts on calling India the worlds largest toilet & rape capital, so you're incorrect. Why not ask the very same Pakistani members on this forum like @MastanKhan and others that were making the claim I've written in bold? What...
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    Ousted Prime Minister Imran Khan Arrested: News and Discussion

    Let's look at other armies under civilian control? US military Israeli military Indian military Russian military Chinese military French military UK military Australian military All of the above are powerful, right?How do you think the Pakistani military compares with, let's say the US...
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    Ousted Prime Minister Imran Khan Arrested: News and Discussion

    Civilian opinion does matter. It mattered when Bengalis in East Pakistan decided to break away. It matters right now as the establishment can't forgive Imran Khan for turning the country against them. It will matter again if the country decides to pick up arms against the army. Learn to stand...
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    Ousted Prime Minister Imran Khan Arrested: News and Discussion

    Bro, Pakistan has been under military rule for half it's history. It's already a banana republic. During this time, it lost East Pakistan and over half the population, parts of Kashmir, 70,000 lives in WoT, economic damage which can quantified by remembering that no foreigner is stupid enough to...
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    Ousted Prime Minister Imran Khan Arrested: News and Discussion

    The easiest way to reverse the damage to their public image is for the establishment to stage a coup conducted by juniors that remove COAS and Corp Commanders and conduct elections. This way the public will isolate the "bad army" from the "good army". Public image restored 100%. Realizing the...
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    Ousted Prime Minister Imran Khan Arrested: News and Discussion

    There was a Twitter account that was revealing the names and addresses of close family members of Asim Munir and other Corp Commanders that are living abroad. It might have been shut down. However, exposing the family member names & addresses of the handlers will make them think twice before...
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    Ousted Prime Minister Imran Khan Arrested: News and Discussion

    Remember that the establishment & government are also on borrowed time. IMF is not giving the loans and even if they did, the government is so incompetent that they will be bankrupt again in 3-4 months. The people need to protest at GHQ, Corp Commanders, and army & PDM houses to remind these...
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    Ousted Prime Minister Imran Khan Arrested: News and Discussion

    Were it not for Imran Khan, pashtuns would have been even more removed from governance and would have tried to break away. They will never forget what Imran Khan and PTI did for them, for their rights, how they developed KPK, how he ended drone strikes, and gave them a say in this country...
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    Lieutenant General Salman Fayyaz Ghani Sacked/Resigned

    Agreed. Pakistani's have shown repeatedly that they lack the will to take the initiative. Whether it's 1. waiting indefinitely for the useless UN to act on Kashmir instead of attacking 2. showing evidence and going to ICJ for Kulbashan espionage instead of executing him and responding in kind...
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    Ousted Prime Minister Imran Khan Arrested: News and Discussion

    Aren't there any internal controls in place to stop such a scenario? There are secondary switches to shut down nuclear weapons in accidental launches, so why not kill-switch on Generals that go insane? Resignation from posts serve no purpose. They just increase the power ratio in favor of the...
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    Lieutenant General Salman Fayyaz Ghani Sacked/Resigned

    Has the COAS or establishment considered that the goal of the west is not to kill or remove Imran Khan, but to bankrupt and split the country apart on ethnic lines? The west, like the Indians did in East Pakistan, are playing the long game. They know that: 1. Imran is the most popular leader...
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    Ousted Prime Minister Imran Khan Arrested: News and Discussion

    Maybe something good will come from this once this is all over. Perhaps reform of the military including veto power in CC to prevent COAS from wielding too much power. Making ISI independent from military and focused on external threats like other more successful agencies.
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