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Fine by me, but I consider all attempts at "owning" history as false because arguments can be made at all levels that would deny such ownership. As Niaz said the IVC is so old that attempts to associate it with a country are meaningless. However, if Pakistan wants to claim IVC as a...

Well, perhaps you should contact those desperate researchers instead! I'm afraid that your perception of it being a 'desperate attempt' doesn't change facts!

You didn't, you just sidetracked by claiming that all the evidence is falsified/hindutva propoganda/ridiculous etc.

Bhai, why don't you counter the evidence instead of re-stating and re-re-stating your position?

Lahore is the cultural capital of Pakistan, and of course, the Punjab. Before partition, Lahore was one of the commercial and cultural capitals of North India, along with Lucknow, Varanasi and Delhi. It has a very long and rich history, and has seen many great civilizations.

Modern Balochis are an Iranian people I think - they have little to do with the IVC people. Same for the people of NWFP, FATA and these areas. As far as Punjabis and Sindhis are concerned, there have been a number of migrations into these areas throughout the post-harappan history, starting...

I don't think I have genetic evidence (primarily because I am clueless about haplogroups and genetic markers and all that). However, all you have to do is make a list of ethnic groups in Pakistan, and then trace their migration histories. I think I once did post something similar in this...

Fair enough - think of it as a test of loyalty towards your adopted country.

How many Pakistanis are direct descendants of the IVC people? Not too many. Most are descendants of migrating tribes which arrived in Pakistan long after the demise of the IVC. So, do these people have a direct claim on the IVC? Yes, you would say. Why? Because they are part of the same...

Erm because they are part of modern India, so yes, they do have a direct claim. If they were not part of the same country today, then things would be different.

Erm, except for the fact that the inscription says SHIVA. How did they learn the word Shiva without coming into contact with the Shaivite texts?

Not really - the Gandhara Grave Culture doesn't appear to have mixed with the people of the IVC. The later cultures - the Cemetery H for example, are considered the nucleus of the Vedic civilization that fused the culture of the IVC people and the arriving Aryan migrants. Erm, Black and...

Well, they seem to have moved out! The actual number of sites along the Indus is quite less: In a survey conducted by M.R. Mughal between 1974 and 1977, over 400 sites were mapped along 300 miles of the Hakra river.[8] The majority of these sites were dated to the fourth or third millennium...

Erm, the Gandhara Grave Culture is associated with the arrival of the Aryan migrants from Central Asia (BMAC). (1500 BC to 500 BC) The Cemetary - H culture (1900 BC) was a significant shift eastward from the IVC, and the later Painted Gray Ware culture (1100 BC) succeeded the Cemetery H...

And Neo, that "Indians will suffer more because they are export oriented" comment is really strange. India has gained more, that's why the fall will be steeper, but wherever India's economy does fall, it will be doing better than Pakistan's economy. Your logic reminds me of a silly radio host...

Except, my friend, the "Vedism" that you talk about died out, lets see, in 500BC!! The beliefs and practices of the pre-classical era (1500–500 BCE) are called the "historical Vedic religion". Hinduism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The Hindu Shahi Kings ruled during the 8th to...

Its all in the numbers bhai. In that case lets stop studying archaeology! Sorry, but we have to go where the archaeological evidence takes us. Well, I guess the BBC lacks common sense then. But look at the map: There are settlements along the Indus valley as you can see, but there is a...

Do the achivements of Islamic Civilization belong to all Muslims? Sincere question.

Okay, I never claimed that the Indus ran dry. But Climate Change does suggest that the Ghaggar-Hakra river ran dry, as shown in the video. Now, there were post-Harappan settlements along the Indus river, but for some reason, they were few and far between. Clearly, we don't know the...

So, erm, the people who worship Shiva in India are following "Rig Vedic Religion"? Gosh, I wonder what the Shaivites of Tamil Nadu will think about the "Gangetic Gods" and "Non Gangetic Gods". Laughable. And wait, you totally forgot the Ganesha Idol in Afghanistan with the King's name on it...