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  1. illuminatus

    Long Range SAM System For PAF To Counter Indian MRCA+PAK-FA

    You're right about the Ukrainian option. I'm sure that the concerned parties have considered all the options on the table. It's inevitable that sooner rather than later Pakistan will opt for some kind of high altitude SAM system. The need for such a capability is growing each day due to Indian...
  2. illuminatus

    Long Range SAM System For PAF To Counter Indian MRCA+PAK-FA

    I agree. The Chinese have made huge strides as far as SAM capability goes. Thanks to the import of advanced SAM systems from Russia, as well as the rapid progress made in the development and fielding of indigenous SAM systems, the Chinese air defence network has entered as a credible and potent...
  3. illuminatus

    Long Range SAM System For PAF To Counter Indian MRCA+PAK-FA

    Let's be realistic. Other than China, we don't have the option of obtaining such sensitive high tech from Russia, US or any other Western country for that matter. Only medium/low altitude SAMs are realistically obtainable from Western sources. However, China is a very good option for Pakistan...
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    Pakistan joins war against Houthis in Yemen: Report

    Pull them out of there. Pakistan hasn't only sacrificed innocent lives in the illegitimate WoT, but has also one of the largest blue helmet assignments fighting abroad in foreign land and cleaning up the dirty work of others. Time to clean up our own mess before fighting abroad. Besides...
  5. illuminatus

    U.S. to give Pakistan 12 Shadow Drones

    We can get guidance and tech from China which is a proven all weather friend. Perhaps not the most advanced tech yet, but sufficient for Pakistan's needs and requirements at this moment. The US isn't going to provide any ToT with armed drones. The US isn't even going to provide the drones let...
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    Pakistan's likely response to an Indian Surgical strike !

    I agree. That too is offensive and I have requested the thread starter to change the wording.
  7. illuminatus

    Pakistan's likely response to an Indian Surgical strike !

    One thing is certain though. If India uses Afghanistan as its terror launchpad against Pakistan (which it does), Afghanistan and India are going both to suffer immensely.
  8. illuminatus

    Pakistan's likely response to an Indian Surgical strike !

    How about if I made fun of Mumbai attacks? :disagree: PS. I've reported you.
  9. illuminatus

    PAF vs. IAF Analysis- Air Combat Over the Subcontinent

    Let me just clarify it even more. Pakistan has a minimum deterrence last resort policy which is something very different to first use policy. I'm sure that answers your question more accurately. India being a larger country can afford to have a no first use policy as opposed to Pakistan because...
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    PAF vs. IAF Analysis- Air Combat Over the Subcontinent

    Explain that to your political and military leaders that made these irresponsible threats in broad day light. I'm merely referring to Indian leaders that made those statements. Of course, it's always very easy to blame the other side and pretend it's never your fault. Very convenient way of...
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    PAF vs. IAF Analysis- Air Combat Over the Subcontinent

    You're talking to a brick wall. :hitwall: Some Indian leaders actually believe that they could win a nuclear war against Pakistan. Even if that means a loss of hundreds and millions on their side. How do you go about confronting such a crazy doomsday notion?
  12. illuminatus

    U.S. to give Pakistan 12 Shadow Drones

    Again, whether foreign aid, foreign tech, foreign input/assistance etc. in any form was involved is really beside the point. The relevant issue at hand is that we got from point A to point B. We got the end result which is really all that matters. No, they're not lofty considering that we have...
  13. illuminatus

    U.S. to give Pakistan 12 Shadow Drones

    Yes, I'm aware of that. The Falco which the PA operates is capable of carrying missiles. I'm sure the top brass have got their answer now that the Americans have made the Shadow offer. The need of the hour is to deploy these machines in numbers across the border areas. Whether Falco or another...
  14. illuminatus

    F16s from US will only help Pak lose war against India ‘a little slower’: US official

    I agree. Both Pakistan and India will be falling for the trap and the US will be profiting by arming both nations with deadly weapons. Instead of resorting to an arms race both countries should ideally be diverting their resources to their people.
  15. illuminatus

    U.S. to give Pakistan 12 Shadow Drones

    I don't understand. What's so lofty about these moderate goals? Have some faith. We're not going to the moon, you know. A country that can produce nuclear weapons, ballistic and cruise missiles and now aircraft fighters can also produce a UCAV. Besides, the Pakistani UAV industry have already...
  16. illuminatus

    U.S. to give Pakistan 12 Shadow Drones

    The answer is quite simple. Pakistan needs something along the lines of the MQ-1 Predator drone. Not necessarily as complex and sophisticated, but a UCAV that has an acceptable endurance, service ceiling and payload for armament delivery. Of course, the PA are much better aware of the...
  17. illuminatus

    Israeli-made drones over Afghanistan

    All the more reason why it's becoming even more critical for Pakistan to field UCAVs in this ongoing war. These cost-effective machines are the future of the battlefield. They operate at extreme elevations and are very difficult to spot. Also, they provide valuable intel and when required can...
  18. illuminatus

    U.S. to give Pakistan 12 Shadow Drones

    You took the words out of my mouth. It's all about reducing the number of boots on the ground by the use of UCAVs. Not only is this kind of tech useful in gathering intel, but also very effective in taking out targets without minimal loss of troops on the ground. The most important aspect about...
  19. illuminatus

    U.S. to give Pakistan 12 Shadow Drones

    Pakistan already possesses Falco UAV which is Western tech and easily surpasses the Shadow UAV in almost every imaginable way. The Americans will never provide Pakistan with superior tech that can be used as a study model. I think that we're underestimating our capabilities in this particular...
  20. illuminatus

    U.S. to give Pakistan 12 Shadow Drones

    I fully concur. We should demand whatever we require, but not remain under the illusion that we will get the goodies. Pakistan should avoid the US where possible and opt for joint ventures with China. The JF-17 project should serve as a reminder of fruitful cooperation between two allies that...
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