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    Russia's new Fire and forget missile Kornet-EM

    If we are talking about FIRE & FORGET in such term, Kornet-D complies with the ability.
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    Russia's new Fire and forget missile Kornet-EM

    As you see definition cannot be objective and weapons are not classified by that way. For example Hellfire is called in reference to Fire & Forget ability, but in most cases it uses semi-active guidance, that is, needs to be guided after launch. Then it falls under the same classification as...
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    Russia's new Fire and forget missile Kornet-EM

    How are you talking about anti-air systems? It is completely out of context. Your definition is wrong and contradictory. For example, how will a seeker aquire a target out of the visual field? Javelin and Spike will not suit the definition of "fire & forget" using your words. And who...
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    Rafael Releases New Member of Spike Family - Spike NLOS

    I´ll argue in the other page from now. This got exhausted.
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    Russia's new Fire and forget missile Kornet-EM

    Before responding, read this article: KBP, News And after that discuss it if able.
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    Russia's new Fire and forget missile Kornet-EM

    Fire & Forget is an operating mode, not guidance. If it is fully automatic with no manual involvement it is fire & forget. And it has unique ability to destroy MOVING targets in AUTOMATIC mode which no other system has.
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    "Go at this thread" Ok, did not see, but let me finish something there...

    "Go at this thread" Ok, did not see, but let me finish something there...
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    Rafael Releases New Member of Spike Family - Spike NLOS

    What? Pantsyr and Tor are different concepts. Pantsyr is mix of missile and guns on which KBP specializes. Tor has different location technique. They are made by different companies.
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    Rafael Releases New Member of Spike Family - Spike NLOS

    So system is bad and Syria bought it because they are "beggas"? OK I get it. What specific? It is, front, or side. ? No. They explicitly state capabilities and is done as that by KBP. Whatever marketing figures can give other companies, is not related. It shows not specifically ERA variant...
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    Rafael Releases New Member of Spike Family - Spike NLOS

    System perfectly knows which targets are dangerous and are coming in your direction. RPG in air no because direction is nowhere. Actually top flying ATGM´s are slow and have a simple trajectory. No challenge.
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    Rafael Releases New Member of Spike Family - Spike NLOS

    Look here. Tests were conducted as officials stated. Army evaluation tests are not shown, but demonstrations if anything. Guidance I agree, but performance is good. Guidance is semi-automatic and it is very easy. Even fresh conscripts hit all targets at first try. Even if effect is relatively...
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    Rafael Releases New Member of Spike Family - Spike NLOS

    Can look in KBP´s site. Old system, improved, with completely new missile from old composition. OK? At that distance they choose were to hit horizontally. Against ERA, is a diffrent game even with tandem, it has still some effect. With Heavy ERA penetration is decreased in the order of...
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    Rafael Releases New Member of Spike Family - Spike NLOS

    There is no significant difference. All variants all unified, except that some have a booster attached. Pic First, Hermes is not 3rd gen as you imply, it has a semi-active seeker. Target is designated at long range and seeker aquires target when close. 3rd gen in the West is active seeker, and...
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    Rafael Releases New Member of Spike Family - Spike NLOS

    Composition differs little apart from having a booster attached. You said that it does not exist beyond 3D concepts, you was wrong. Said it not entered tests, it did. There is a difference. Metis-M was not developed as a new system as Javelin or Spike, but from an existant base as continous...
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    Rafael Releases New Member of Spike Family - Spike NLOS

    Here you go Link Minute search. Because Metis-M is based on old 2nd gen plattform and it is nice as an upgrade to your current arsenal when you operate it in large numbers. Those who are not in that situation buy new systems. It is made in the same dimensions as the older one (same...
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    Rafael Releases New Member of Spike Family - Spike NLOS

    You say no, and that´s it, without arguments? And I bet your knowledge on that is very limited anyways. Syria bought it because it already operated the old system and since the new is made on the same base, (uses the same plattform) it is an easy way to upgrade your current arsenal. Metis-M...
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    Rafael Releases New Member of Spike Family - Spike NLOS

    It passed tests already. KBP finished work on it a decade already. No system is in developement stage for that long unless it is conceptual, which Hermes is not. The issue is to find a place for it in the army, but to have it, it is available... Kornet can be carried and operated by two...
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    Rafael Releases New Member of Spike Family - Spike NLOS

    Exist, it exists. Since it is for different purposes and you know, why talk about it? What? how is it not man portable? it is carried in infantry formations the same as the rest. Fire & Forget is limited to only 2km by seeker. In that case it brings nothing new as compared to older systems...
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    Rafael Releases New Member of Spike Family - Spike NLOS

    Apart from that, they are complex and reliability is much lower. Limited warhead size also demanded to hit targets from top were armor is weaker, but modern tanks neutralise that advantage with armor configuration.
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    Rafael Releases New Member of Spike Family - Spike NLOS

    You contradicted yourself. First said that midcourse guided missiles are inferior to fir & forget because of that, but now is the opposite. Spike ER is TV guided while in flight while Kornet-D Guidance process is fully automatic. 8km is line of sight and targets are visible most times...
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