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We got kicked out of the F35 project. Cancelling TFX is no longer an option. That being said, we could reduce the planned number of OPVs from 10 to 4-6. Hisar class is a big, expensive ship. We could focus on Turkish Type FAC instead. some of the oldest Type 209s are from the 70ies so we need...

@LeGenD :-)

lol, enjoy death then

Told you so

let me repost this Gem

Oh my god yes! us Turks, all we can do is reassemble 1960s western garbage. Baybay or whatever it's called, who cares about its name? Look at the glorious Iranian helicopter %100 made in Iran, no western parts in this islamic bitch, blessed by the prophet muhammad himself! Ya allah! Scary!

The only good news here. High defense spending is nice until you realize that every cent is coming out of our pockets. We're already paying ever increasing taxes. Right now, the most important projects are Turkish type FAC and TFX and of course Reis and Milden. A lot of less important...

what the fvck is wrong with this guy Small dick syndrome or something? We REALLY need to quadpack the ESSM or Gökdoğan, We do not have many cells.

I wish everybody could import "leftover tech kit" like this 😂 whatever that means.

if they wanted Turkish protection, they shouldn't have betrayed the Ottoman Empire You want to be independent, but whenever you're in trouble you want daddy Turkey to come help. :-) These poor victims that beg for our help now, were cutting open stomachs of wounded Turkish POWs to look for...

Nothing a couple of JF-17 squadrons can't sort out.

It has to be this way. I am happy that Pakistan is finally addressing this situation and I hope Turkey will be the next.

Try not to cry

İt sürüsüyle uğraşıyorum, bir tane adam yok içlerinde.

You mean like this? Stop projecting your own insecurities onto Turkey.

Who knows? they are jumping over the fences and crossing the border with no oversight. They are all military age men and they come through Iran. Do you know what you're offloading on us? If you know, please share, because we haven't any fucking clue. It's a fucking invasion.

Turkey is a very nice place to live, that much is true if you ignore all the socio-economic factors. The country is FLOODED with millions of arab/afghan refugees, real-estate prices have skyrocketed to insane amounts. If you had a nice 3+1 apartment in a good part of İstanbul you could easily...

There's no other option but to not see failure as an option and go all in. No matter what happens we can not fail. If we fail we'll simply try again and again until we get it right. It's like going up to Atatürk before the Batle of Dumlupınar and saying, "paşam what if we fail?"

@Stryker1982 I can't reply on Iranian chill thread, mods threadbanned me. You can post the news here and we can discuss it. But suffice to say that a lot of people lost hope after the elections, there has even been suicides.