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Turks had Atatürk, a visionary revolutionist. Pakistan had Jinnah, an enlightened man without a doubt. What did Afghanistan have? It's a shithole and it will always remain a shithole because they don't have the capacity for anything else. They are shit people. Afghanistan is the only place on...

Until Siper becomes operational I think Greece has the advantage in SAM systems due to Patriot. Turkey has clearly more ATGMs and smart munitions and the ability to produce more when desired But if western help comes like in Ukraine's case that will immediately change. We don't have a Javelin...

You're way too optimistic about Turkey's allies. We've fought 40 years against PKK terrorism and nobody came to fight for us. We stand alone. Fortunately it's more than enough. We don't need proxies. Iran would be demolished. Iranian missiles and shahed 136 drones would do a lot of damage to...

If we truly "saved" Korea, it's not something to be proud of, it's a shame. How is a country that we saved has many times higher GDP than us, and years ahead of us in technology? How is half of Turkey using South Korean Samsung smartphones and Hyundai Cars, LG electronics etc. How come...

couple of months to start or finish? lol

Thank you for your confidence in us, and I agree but Israel having F-35s is a huge issue. Yeah he thinks it's a good thing that Turkey got kicked out of F-35 partnership. It's a medical condition. Turkish brigade fought bravely and admirably in Korea But to say that we alone saved Korea is...

Egyptian Air Force is absolutely dog shit by the way. They lack proper AAMs, modern UAVs and too many types of aircraft to properly maintain on their own.

I'm not targeting anyone, just clarifying my original point that I said to the 70 IQ pajeet.

Yes, I'm aware of the Mushshak, it's a civilian product as far as I'm concerned. The bomb thing I wasn't aware of, POF must have given a price that's even cheaper than MKEK. Although I did not know this, my point still stands. Just because Israel has nukes, doesn't mean it's "a better army...

It has nothing to do with Turkey being muslim, everything to do with the way Turkey conducts itself.

so when are we going to see the prototype 2?

The point is, we're transfering technology to Pakistan so obviously we're technologically ahead. We'll share more when we have more. Nobody would say Pakistani Army is much beter than Turkish Army because it has nukes. After seeing how much damage a ragtag terrorist organization like Hamas can...

Can't think of a single Pakistani or British weapon in Turkish army. We even have certain items from countries we have poor relations with, like France, Sweden, Israel. Can't think of anything British anywhere in the armed forces. We have lots of American and German stuff but no British.

@waz what started with a comprehensive analysis of the balance in the region now turned into a dick measuring contest between spergs. Please lock this thread.

I don't think their army is better than ours. Just the air force. Getting kicked out of F35 program really ruined everything.

The youtube account just got deleted but it was a very comprehensive analysis, do you remember what the name of the speaker was? What the **** is this 5 year old logic. We aren't dreaming of capturing Israel. @waz can we threadban this gıuy?

We did, in Afrin you don't know what the **** you're talking about.

1) What the **** are you talking about? Turkey never stopped fighting since 1974 Cyprus war. We're the most experienced military in the region. 2) lol you're so proud of helping your colonial master :cheesy: in the end they failed,we defeated the Greeks, Italians, French, the British and came...

Turkey isn't a banana republic. We aren't going to enter a war Just because a bunch of dimwits tried to run the Israeli blockade and got killed

With this logic Pakistani army is better than Turkey too but we make your weapons :what: Nukes aren't really relevant in conventional war. Did it give Russia the advantage in Ukraine? You need to look into how Turkey was founded.. People who colonized India for centuries got absolutely...