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Hürjet trainer variant to replace all the T-38s in the inventory and combat variant to be designed, tested, put in production, we're still looking at 2030 the earliest. And speaking of "western jets" you do realize that Hürjet is powered by the American F-404 engine right? At best we will get...

I wish it was true but we're woefully underequipped for the challenges in the region. F4s have to retire and 240 F-16s just isn't enough. We need more airframes no matter how you look at it. at least 8 fucking years until KAAN is operational. Yes but they will probably serve well into 2040ies...

I'm still curious how he got his hands on a BTR-80

It was the only logical choice since the S400 purchase, we just wasted time begging for F-16s and upgrade kits. I think the only problem is the small order of 40, if we ordered 100 instead, there could be more pressure on Germany by Italy and UK

This has been discussed during the Type-23 frigate drama. Because we need it, no matter how much Erdoggy fanboys seethe and cope, getting kicked out of F35 program pushed Turkey into a very difficult spot. We don't even have a response for the Greek Rafale. It's a bigger disgrace that Erdo...

LHTEC engines are just for testing as far as I know

I'm sure we can handle them lol. No need to keep begging for F-16 Murat radar T/R modules go BRRRR

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Lol Trust me that's not a good thing for Israel :cheesy:

Exaclty, those who can remain calm and rational during stressful times tend to succeed. We should know that best. These pictures were taken during some of the most desparate times in Atatürk's life. What do you see? He's serious but calm, just looking at the distance and thinking. But...

They blew up that whole building today

I mean history is full of David & Goliath stories like that but it's a very difficult challenge for sure. Some pilots aren't going home that day OHPs were very low tech, back then you could do it, Even look at Turkey's OHP Frigates now and how much they were modernized since then, with VLS...

I doubt even Hellenic Air Force can find and sink Arleigh Burkes in open sea lol. Their radars are just that ridiculously good. Only chance you're going to get is with Type 209s Israeli navy is a joke, US not so much haha :cheesy:

Yeah I meant Yemen, but same goes for Lebanon.

Hypersonic missiles fly much higher and they get detected much earlier, making them easy prey for SM-6 or SM-3 Something like ATMACA is still better. What Turkey needs is actual border security. Any Afghan with a bag full of cocaine pass through the border.

You're very ignorant, Lebanon has no way of targeting US ships, and even cruise missiles they fired at Israel got shot down over red sea