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I'm a fan of fighters in general, so it'd be a shame for anything to possibly cut into TF-X development/budget. The biggest stumbling block for the TF-X imo is Turkish insistence on their own engines. Its completely understandable mind you, the holy grail of every nation w/ aeronautic ambitions...

Very cool, is that the actual name of the bridge?

@Combat-Master I will utilize your brilliant sig/quote. "The best way to get the right answer on the Internet is not to ask a question.. it's to post the wrong answer." - Cunningham's Law The TF-X has been cancelled! :woot: P.S. The Hurjet is looking like a sweet trainer, that can also be...

Indonesia's participation is crucial for several reasons: the shared initial burden/investment, absolutely, but they will also purchase at least 50 (maybe up to 80), coupled w/ SK's 120-150, this helps to bring down per unit price. If Indonesia were to abandon the project, then everything they...

Northrop Grumman is also looking to get in on the action, maybe revive the YF-23 Black Widow that lost to the F-22 (article by the same dude :D): Now Northrop Grumman Wants to Build Japan's New Fighter Jet Northrop and Lockheed Martin tangled over fighter jets a generation ago. Now they could...

Going bigger for block 2 may not be a bad idea, because it'll all be internal bays then. There's concern fuel capacity/range must shrink to make room; performance compromises for stealth. Block 3 almost seems more like block "2.5"; countries that purchase block 2 would just be waiting to...

? They're using the F414-GE-400, twin engine. If you mean completely indigenous, then yeah they took the path of least resistance. But then, you could say the Saab Gripen isn't really a Swedish jet cuz they also use that US engine

Haven't heard any news on the TF-X in a while, anyone know the latest developments?

Can see from the 1st pic comparing the fighters, KF-X C-109 is now larger than F-35 (and also C-104) F-35: Length: 50.5 ft[486] (15.67 m) Wingspan: 35 ft[c] (10.7 m) Height: 14.2 ft[d] (4.33 m) Wing area: 460 ft²[85] (42.7 m²)...

(Courtesy of Google Translate) [KFX-X] Fifth generation fighter ... Stealthy road opens up possibility of evolution <44> After completion of the basic design, the final shape of the Korean fighter business fighter project team appearance similar to the F-22 raptor seems to be similar to the...

The way I see it, if even SK engineers feel Indonesian engineers aren't getting a fair deal, equal to their contributions and abilities, then that must be close to the truth because they would know the situation best. There's not much SK can do about US denial of ToT, that tech does belong to...

Ah, did not know about the wings/underside, or about 30% of engineers (only heard 80 of them in SK), so good to know (btw would you have a source?). The export issue may be a non-starter, but Indonesia may very well get more ToT, if for no other reason than we can expect the final project cost...

Thanks for the insight. Yeah, heard about US resistance to ToT; LM had to withhold 4 of the 25 technologies in the f-35 offset deal, but that means they did give 21. Honestly that might be tough, I don't see the US budging. In terms of export, I also don't see SoKor giving up those rights...

As someone of Korean ancestry, their is one eternal foe, taught to us from birth: the Japanese. All the evil they have perpetrated, all the lies they have told, etc etc. Many years ago, following my mother to the supermarket, I got bored, so I went out into the parking lot to make mischief. I...

Can't find that specific article sorry, in fact had to paste that translation from a previous post I made. I can give you this article that covers a lot of similar ground: http://www.sedaily.com/NewsView/1S0ZX8CNSD Also, I've heard Indonesia is seeking to renegotiate certain terms of the...

Can't find the article, but read the KF-X has grown in size over the course of wind-testing by an "order of magnitude" or something, more in-line w/ other 2 engine jets, so more missiles & fuel capacity. Final is C 109...

Think I read somewhere that KF-X/IF-X stressed range because Indonesia needed it more than SoKor; lot more territory to cover, bigger distances. If they can really pull off 1650 km combat radius, that's pretty impressive.

Oh you guys are too gangster :nhl_checking: Seriously tho, I have a suspicion not a few of you guys actually enjoy the back & forth w/ your "enemies", even when it gets nasty; its venting. Tough day at work/school/traffic - log on to PDF - Go Nuts - rinse/repeat. I also suspect if you ever...

Hey I can finally post threads now! So for my very 1st thread, and in honor of (what I believe is) this site's raison d'etre, I present for your consideration... "Can't we all just get along?":

If we're comparing apples to apples, comparison should be between su 57 & f 22; tmk the raptor was the air superiority benchmark (f 35 wasn't meant to fill that role). I'm not sure of su 57 networking capabilities, would appreciate some insight. Edit: ah, @pakistanipower beat me to it :-)