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@SQ8 @MastanKhan New theory. 1. Pakistan gives up on Kashmir. 2. Pakistan stops collaborating with China. 3. The U.S. encourages South Korea, Turkey, etc, to sell Pakistan arms. 4. Pakistan re-orients focus towards Afghanistan and Iran. It's starting to look like that's where Washington...

The first export customer was Myanmar. If Azerbaijan (which recognizes Israel) buys the JF-17, there's a good chance that -- eventually -- some Israeli subsystems or weapons will reach the platform, one way or another. Heck, this might even happen via the Argentinian sale.

Islamically, we shouldn't be assuming or speculating about the people involved. Moreover, we mustn't let our personal opinions or views colour the matter, especially with regard to the potential character of the people in the case.

I wish/hope they match the noses and front fuselages of all of the JF-17s. That mono-color version looks so nice.

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The PN will rely on the Harbah and SMASH. I don't think they'd need the Atmaca. However, the PN might be interested in the 'Cakir' ALCM. It'd fill that longstanding gap for a Penguin-type AShM that the PN could use from its helicopters and smaller boats (like MRTP-33).

@iLION12345_1 what's the value of moving towards electric motors, hybrid power packs, etc? I'm just guessing, but would it help with reducing the thermal signature? Or drastically reduce the noise generated by the tank? However, if they load up on batteries, wouldn't that drastically add to the...

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In fairness to H Khan, he was losing his mind about the MILGEM news for some reason. However, even he was behind the idea of not just working with Turkey, but emulating their defence industry model. In fact, the guy openly called the armed forces out for their poor marketing assets at one of the...

Upgrading from Black Vigo to Black Jet? But Black Jet will also be a part-time VVIP thing?

It seemed the PN was originally going to go for Swiftships' 70 m corvette but pivoted to the Damen OPV. However, if you look at Swiftships' brochure, they made a lot of design changes to the 70 m corvette. Part of me wonders if they're still in talks with the PN regarding the OPV requirement.

We'll see MRTP-33-type FAC(M)s too. The good thing about these gunboats (and Damen OPVs) is that they totally solve the peacetime requirements. Now, the PN doesn't need to mix the sea policing or anti-piracy requirements into its A2/AD assets. For the latter, the PN can finally focus on...

tbh at the rate the PN's going, I think we'll see them start an original submarine project (e.g., with Turkey) a lot sooner than later.

The point you're missing is that between the drawing board and the operational realm, Turkey actually has something to talk about. We don't. That's the gap @JamD, myself, and others are trying to address. Our programs either wither away on the drawing board (e.g., AZM) or, ultimately, end up...

Precisely. This is so much bigger than Pakistan. As you said, the whole world is watching. If China can't keep its grasp on Pakistan, then it exposes itself as a weak superpower. It shows the world that China can't translate its economic power into foreign relations clout. This is a strategic...

Türkiye is leagues ahead in every domain. Let's talk about rockets. They've mastered dual-pulse rocket motor (DPMR) tech well enough to use it for SRAAMs, BVR AAMs, short and medium-range SAMs, and now a long-range SAM (SIPER). This is really complex and intricate stuff. They have had to master...

If China has indeed bailed, then as @MastanKhan put it, China has no idea what it's doing. Just bear in mind, a "strong" Pakistan vis-a-vis India isn't necessary for the U.S. to use Pakistan to encircle China. The U.S. just has to make sure China can't rely on Pakistan for anything, and if what...

It'd be a bigger strategic blunder for China to cut Pakistan loose. Basically, the Chinese know (or now know) the caliber of our rulers. This shouldn't have been news to them, but anyways, it's as clear as glass that our political and military leadership aren't "it." As a group, they're not...

It's not just that. In fact, that aspect of the relationship is recoverable because the U.S. will drive India to intensify its anti-China focus. The issue is literally us. We don't have enough internal know-how and capacity to get the most out of the JF-17 program. We're reliant on China, and...