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    No sign of Duke class figate, Bremen kind of underpowered not so far capability with our current frigates
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    if is really los angeles, i would glad to hear it, hope not 206 that thailand try to aquistion several years ago
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    the previous MoD messing around seriously, sadly mr prabowo must fix up the situations by buying weapons as fast as we can get altought is an old/ secondhand alutsista
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    they dont need our money but still south korea need us to reduce research/production cost and to promote their kfx or i can say we are their the guinea pig :( sorry if it sounds harsh
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    oh i see, i'm just thinking about the procurement itself for urgent scenario, not the whole supply chain and manufaturing process, you right in long term we should persue some key technology from the US that we have not gain from current cooperation in development of fighter aircraft and alman...
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    USAF will buy them 8+6 units planned dilevered in 2022-2023, https://www.defensenews.com/air/2020/07/20/its-official-us-air-force-to-buy-turkish-f-35s/#:~:text=The%20U.S.%20Air%20Force%20will,a%20%24862%20million%20contract%20modification.
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    @Indos you mean the first quote above? yes i've read it but we still don't have access to the technology that's the rumours, and of course the subsistem not built by KAI itself but atleast they know how to or has ability to integrated the whole systems on a single airframe, not just integrating...
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    in my simple word we pay contribution 20% share cost just to studying how to build jet fighter airframe and and sokor will give us 1 prototype, but we can't access other core technology, i suspect is not LM who doest want to give us access but from the korea itself because this project is their...
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    i doubt it, CAATSA will still applies whoever the president is, with democrats as rulers will only make it difficult for Indonesian to gain access to their inventory, i prefer republic for the ruler
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    Is this newest exercise photos?
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    F15 for new squadron or as F5 replacement?
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    typhoon and then f15, seriously? that would be gado-gado if success or ketoprak if they all fails
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    Sokor just need Indonesia for reduction cost, that's my gripe You mean keseimbangan kawasan? That kind of strategy don't relevant anymore when some country want to bully their neighbouring contry including Indonesia
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    MoD potentialy breaking the constitution, if he insist buy secondhand tyhoon, that's what some member of komisi 1 said, because the contitution said the deal should be include trade-return, offset and local content at least 85%...
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    Don't really care about what airfighters we gonna buy, as long is worth for the money and tni au get their aircraft
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    we share our knowlage and experiance to contribute but then why we still can't access their technology, that's is my concern, if the reason is we just pay 20% of the project as a junior partner, meanwhile they reject bigger offer from Turkey for equal partner is it this whole thing become an...
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    welcome to our page, thats perhaps the simple explanation, typhoon always considered as interceptor in their homeground
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    if we dont get technology from kfx then why our engeeners send to south korea? what we persue then if they dont give us acces to their technology? if what your said is true, then some sokor defence facebook page who said our engeeners "loitering" become quite relevan, pointless if i may say...
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    haven't found pricise cost, meanwhile the germany budget around 1.7 billion USD for radar integration with Hensoldt but i don't for many airframe it will be upgrade https://www.aviationtoday.com/2020/06/22/hensoldt-takes-lead-german-eurofighter-fleet-aesa-upgrade/
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    some user in def**talk said spain curently is upgrading their EF fleet from tranche 1 to tranche 2, capable meteor missile and e-scan radar, and make them as pillar of their AF fleet to replace their f18 hornet, beat superhornets and f35 as their candidates...
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