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If the shards date from a period after the river dried up, how would it affect anything. Besides, rivers do tend to change course time to time, on a much shorter time scale. Rivers also tend to wash away debris from the banks, pottery laden boats may capsize etc. But one is open to any...

And these linguists are better than your eminent historians, hopefully.

so? What is being discussed is chronology of books and what the authors knew about.

No archaeological evidence only if you a-priori assume that the Saraswati settlements are non-Vedic, which leads to many other severe inconsistencies. Linguists of the AIT school have apparently created from scratch an entirely conjectural PIE language .... not sure how well founded that...

No reason for the supposed Harappans to be decaying, the Saraswati was in full flow. The Vedics mention their own settlements on the Saraswati. But (afaik) they do not mention any non-Arya cities on the Saraswati banks, despite having much to say about more distant peoples. Combine that with...

Then you would have to face the somewhat bizarre situation of cities belonging to two peoples, the Harappans and the Vedics, in close proximity, on the banks of the fully flowing Saraswati, at the same time. And explain why these next-door Harappans were never mentioned in the Vedas, when...

The references are in fact diverse. But we stress that it is the message that matters, not the messenger.

As a matter of fact his paper is based on many inputs, including a considerable amount of material in the area of his core competency. It may not be possible for one person to simultaneously be an expert at archaeology, Vedic literature, satellite hydrology and genetics. Yet there is no reason...

And why should those two categories be distinct? Sure, they may have their subculture but that need not have any genetic implication. And I had no intention of positing that. The genetic studies in fact show that both Adivasis and non-Adivasis are equally indigenous. err ... the "trash" is...

We know from Vedic texts that there were Vedic settlements on the banks of the Saraswati when it was a mighty river. Any settlements in the Kalibangan area, for example, at the confluence of the Drishadvati and Saraswati, both important Vedic rivers, dating to around 2500 BC, must be Vedic. Why...

A valid statement, if one makes discounting the OIT an axiom.

He has been finding, excavating and dating settlements. Various others have been looked at genetics, satellite hydrology and at the Vedic texts. One puts everything together to form a picture.

What new political order, if there had not been any "Aryan" invasion / migration? Which is why your output is a restatement of your known beliefs. In fact, the Vedic settlements on the banks of the Saraswati had endured for millenia before abandonment around 2000 BC. We've had ANIs and ASIs...

You are just restating your belief and calling it a "fact".

I did take the trouble of giving you a link on Saraswati archaeology, which I added to my previous post a bit later. Feel free to peruse. And the response to your point about my alleged "hate" for Islam is quite logically sound.

For Saraswati archaeology see The Sarasvati (b.b. Lal) I will just respond to one other part of your post - Why should my attitude towards Islam depend on whether it is indigenous or not? Should it be not based on understanding the character of the Prophet, after a study of the Sahih Hadiths?

We're talking about the Vedic peoples. Can't ignore the Vedas themselves. One can certainly extract evidence from there. Has been posted in this thread Well then you should be glad to accept that there were no "Aryans" who invaded / migrated into the Indian subcontinent. Other content-free...

But let me summarize from where the some of the major contradictory evidence has come - (1) Internal evidence from Vedic literature (2) Saraswati archaeology and (3) Genetic studies. Read this thread to find out more. There is also the issue of the units of measurement deduced from the...

More holes than substance, in fact. It has become one big hole.

If the theory you were taught has lots of holes, you should look for better answers. Good, keep that in mind.