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This was said in 2004. And I am not really sure even after the upgrades it can encounter the Indian MMRCA and current SU-30. Don't you think we need something more big?

I don't know why PAF is delaying induction of new J-10s when there is so much need for a capable fighter jet.

Can't see anything :undecided:

Not many here I guess :( Nice! You are almost a complete band yourself. Do you have any recordings? I am also into Symphonic, Power and Progressive Metal. My choice of instrument is guitar. What bands do you listen to?

That sir was a genuine troll by the elder :)

Touching............for heart bearers.

Any musicians here on the forum? I'd love to meet some of em'. Tell us what kind of music you listen to, what is your music genre and what gear do you have.

Sweeeeeet! Could any one direct me to a link to complete capabilities of this machine?

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Any chance of refund of embargoed planes or something? :)

Well, as I said...We Pakistanis can only hope :) I wish Turbokat was real :flame: 3-4 squadrons and we could rule airspace :lol:

I am not talking about pressure by force lol! Arabs are the ONLY buyers of Rafale. They can easily convince them to let Pakistan buy Rafales on loans and we are good friends with Arab countaries.

I heard a Podcast I found in some international forum about Indian MMRCA and Rafale. It was of some aviation expert who was saying that Rafale is a 4.5 generation aircraft with 5th generation electronics. It is a complex yet interesting aircraft but it will take time to mature to take a notable...

Check out international forums. They are following the same pattern of criticizing JF-17 and placing LCA (with Rafale and Typhoon.

I said "assume". We are not hoping to buy these planes. We are just analyzing our current situation and nominating a potential purchase.

I don't know if thread like this was created before. Delete it if there has been a discussion on a similar thread. We can discuss this topic here and stop polluting other threads with such discussions Please discuss possible PAF's future MRCA. It has become very necessary to do so now. Which...

It has become a figure of speech :)

So you don't know who the successor was. If you don't, how can you say that they couldn't have done better? Go through the history and you will find that there were no internal problems faced during the government of first 3 caliphs that could threaten Islam. However, problems raised within the...

I'd like some explanation from senior members too :S

Thank you! LOL! This is a good one! Where is Def.pk WebMaster? We could use his reply on this topic.