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I totally agree that americans are way way ahead my only contention is---------------why don't we atleast use the best russian tech available?? better than nothing i would say,but its not happening as u can see in my above posts on zhuk-m radar and bars pesa

See i have given only karlo klopp data which remains undisputed as it is based on facts Sure his analysis is bullshit...........but u cannot challenge his technical data which is what i did On the other hand wiki posts only vague data......does it post the power output of radars??and details of...

The range is not even 140 kn.......its 120 km for 5m2

Anyone care for any other point?

here is more with same stats.........even lower i would say,lol Zhuk Radar | MiG Alley Military Aviation News - MiG Aircraft - Military Aircraft - Aircraft Pictures

Ok then bear me out pls WRT COST 1)We are prepared to buy rafale for 100 million per piece 2)investing heavily in pakfa 3)amca in pipeline And when our strike aircrafts...........both su-30 and mig-29 have radars that are old and not even the top line of pesa technology I have posted...

But certainly we can renegotiate considering we will operate these birds for atleast 20 years!! And the next upgrade will take at least 10 years and this radar simply sucks,,,,,,apg-68 beats this thing in everything and am not even talking about plaaf su 33 with huk mse that will butcher this thing

Yes thats the least the govt can do...........but if they set up more competition where will the corruption moolah come from.God knows how many billions have disappeared in drdo and hal

Nice but come to su-30 new thread for more pressing issues

Sure enough but i have shown by simple calculation that we have a disadvantage and ram coating can only have a nominal effect as fan blades are still completely exposed and we need a radar blocker for compressor blades if we are to reduce the rcs. And for the sake of simplicity i was only...

But the fact remains that our mki(not the new russian mkk) have zero composites and no radar coating whatsoever Russian sources quote mki rcs around 20m2 and we can try but am not very hopeful SU-35S rcs is estimated to be at least<5m2 Yes it maybe the only weakness but its a huge one...

Imho its pretty low although the radar is a dual band(both l and x band) and noise levels are also quite low but we have to consider this against f-16 and jf-17 with rcs of 3-4m2.So range against those willbe like 100-120 kms but flanker due to huge rcs of at least 10m2 will be detected at the...

Chalo ji.............HAL gets a new screwdriver contract for assembling stuff.....what more do they need?? If private industry comes,what will HAL do? By the way the bone of contention was,if i remember the very few number of aircrafts in the tender process giving private companies no...

For the simple reason that to evolve to an aesa we have to fit a new radar and remove this one.And withthis pace of implementation it will be years till the replacement occurs.By the way chinese j-11b uses zhuk-mse having a detection range of 180 km against 3m2 target,they already have a better...

An excellent article on the russian radars..............by both TIKHOMIROV NIIP and PHAZOTRON NIIR. Its just a 2 page read and contains a very good comparison table http://www.rfdh.com/ez/system/db/lib_jnl/upload/2931/%5BMWJ0401%5D_Got_You_Covered.pdf

Yes pls refer to post no 7 and read the magazine cutout It says clearly that modernization of the existing radar and not replacement!!! And later on maybe downscale the pakfa aesa for this So all that hoopla about super sukhoi is a load of bullshit and in my opinion its a very bad...

People here live in dreams...........i have provided millions of links in mu new su-30 thread but ppl just post without reading facts!!

I think bars' stages have already been implemented??or will be in the coming new su-30 Either way its a bad news as i have already shown on forst page that bars is an average radar,nothing else and stands no chance even against a good powered pesa..........yes its better than pulse doppler radars

This is the worst site................everything is bullshit and far from facts

They don't need any help now.........they have a huge research going on themselves and their industrial production is second to none