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Yup, we did take external help. Your point being? If you are trying to equate Pakistan's contribution to the JF-17, and Indian contribution to the Tejas, then give up.

Yea, it bears resemblance to the Super-7, which in turn bears resemblance to the MiG-21.

Yea, the same way ALL missiles own their existance to the V2, not just Agni. However on the other hand, ALL fighters are not derived from MiG-21 project. Only your JF-17 is derived from a 60 year old jet.

I know. Fact is JF-17 would have never existed without Super-7 project, and Super-7 would not have existed if MiG-21 didn't exist. Super-7 is the father and MiG-21 is the grand father of JF-17. They are too closely knit and part of the same evolutionary tree as you can see below.

Super-7 project was instrumental in development of the JF-17. Like the wing shape for example. If Super-7 project didn't exist, then JF-17 would have never taken to the skies with the meagre funds PAF gave to jump start the project again. And we all know where Super-7 came from. Hell even...

Be happy with MiG-21's grandson. PAF is only good enough for that. I love JF-17. It is the circus clown among the fighters. You never get bored while discussing JF-17. Very entertaining jet. :lol:

You are posting from wikipedia? You are worried about pics being photoshopped, but You are posting from WIKIPEDIA?? :lol: What a glaring bias! :lol:

Now people daily has made a mistake. Everyone is making a mistake and JF-17 fanboys are correct. :lol: Retiring it with MiG-21 offshoots ofcourse. :lol: Russians are really awesome to have made a fighter which can be modified and changed to THIS extent. *Salutes*

If it is photoshpped post the real pic. :lol: Where is the real pic??? In your wet dreams?? :lol: That is a popular one of the first pics of JF-17. No, we are retiring our MiG-21s while you are inducting brand new Mig-21 offshoots which will become your flying coffin after they get old. :lol...

Which is why it is still not inducted brainiac. :lol: While PAF is happy with a fighter IAF would have spat on. :lol: Photoshopped and fake? hahahaha! Is that the best defence you can come up with. :lol: That pic was one of the first pics to come out of JF-17 called super-7 then. Some...

Your Thaandar is a pice of crap by IAF standards. IAF would have cancelled the JF-17 project long ago if ADA and HAL ever came up with it. JF-17 is lucky it got adopted by an impoverised airforce like the PAF. :lol:

I wonder what is that "Super-7" label doing on the JF-17. :lol: All they did was change name from Super-7 to FC-1 and JF-17. So many names for a CHEAP fighter. And please post an evolutionary chart from Marut to LCA. dummkopf :lol:

I bet if Su-15 got a better radar and if it had gotten a mid life upgrade with latest Avionics, it would kick the grand son of MiG-21, the JF-17, out of the sky. Sukhoi-11 and Sukhoi-15 rules!! :D

Yea, JF-17 was developed from F-22 Raptor. JF-17 has got nothing to do with MiG-21. :lol: JF-17 is more than 50 years old! Even older than LCA. :lol: JF-17 is an offshoot of a 2nd generation 1950s MiG-21 aircraft. :lol:

Correction. you dont even have to type the "h"..... just type "junk fig". It displays "Junk Fighter-17". :haha:

No no.. Junk Fighter is a popular term. it even appears on google suggestions. :lol: Check it out. It is Hilarius!! Type "junk figh" and see it display "Junk Fighter-17" in the suggestions!! :lol: :lol: :lol: Your JF-17 is popular for the wrong reasons. :lol:

If you are going to include the preliminary idea which originated from 1980 and add 30 years, then what abut JF-17 which was first conceived in 1960's as a MiG-21, then got gradually developed to JF-17? :lol: That's more than 50 years old. Chinese can do some crazy reverse engineering and...

Shuld I spell is out what JF-17 is known outside pakistani forums? Junk Fighter - 17! :lol: He said that because LCA has still not integrated with MRAAM weapons and other guided munitions. It is a MiG-21++ fighter even in development. JF-17 is a CHEAP fighter when it is operational in PAF. PAF...

IF PAF had enough money they would have gone for J-10s as a secondary fighter then either Eurofighter or Rafale as the Primary one in a LOW-High combo. But now they have to be "Happy" with JF-17. Too bad.