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To use thrust vectoring, the airframe should be able to get out of a stall because there is a high chance the plane may go into a stall under low speed conditions. How is the stall recovery on the JF-17? Doesn't inspire much confidence with those short straight wings and a tubby MiG-21-esque...

Actually they did. Quoting some former Airforce personnel who was a think thank, as if they talk for the Airforce itself. Forgot who that fanboy was. Jaguars will be prematurely retired, Fulcrums will be taken out before 2025.. all kinds of fanboy $hit.

There goes the claim of some Rafale fanboys that MiG-29s will be taken out of service well before 2025. Idiots!

Военный дневник Игоря Коротченко - Истребитель JF-17 / FС-1 и его вооружение Official JF-17 Infoboard or Placard from the Airshow taking/or just took place in China.

Even words clearly spelt out cannot be comprehended by people? "Russia is to supply China with an additional batch of 100 Klimov RD-93 turbofan engines for the FC-1/JF-17 Thunder combat aircraft before the end of 2016, officials said at Airshow China 2014 in Zhuhai." "He did not specify when...

Read your own quote you piece of monkey $hit! You claimed just losses, never air to air losses. And, even if we take AIR TO AIR LOSSES, there were never 1500 crashes in the IAF, let alone the planes assembled by HAL in service with the IAF which crashed. And even then, crashes can be human...

You certainly did'nt start this nonsense, but you were vouching for it, not to mention YOU DID QUOTE ME. I didn't give an opinion. I stated a plain and a simple fact. This is a forum for Defence.

Do you understand the words "Indian Defence Forum". This is not a Law and order forum!! or for that matter a sports forum or a fuuuuckin Venkaiah Naidu forum! I understand the forum is making profits with the help of the hoards of Indian Members and are wary of not antagonizing us very much...

Why is this shyt in a defence forum????

wow..brilliant logic. The US Air Force lost 2146 fixed wing aircraft, of which close to 600 loses were F4 phantoms. Please note these were the loses on the U.S's own admission. The real losses would naturally be higher than this figure. These are the losses not from accidents post ww2, these...

Better a cow than a stinking bearded mullah I'd say. Who the hell cares if there is a cow or a dog or a bird flying in the sky? When there is a war, are you going to sweep the surrounding area free of dirt, birds and animals and only going to launch because your weapon system is a fragile piece...

Lol..so it becomes absurd logic. The fact of the matter is MiG-21s are going to be replaced by the LCA. The Last MiG-21s were only made on the late 80's. With an average of 25 year Airframe life that's well within the life span of the fighter. And the further 10 year extension given 10-yr...

HAL is a harem of lying incompetant bozos. They pegged the price of a HAL licence produced Su-30MKI at 22.5 million while CAG blasted HAL for their unit cost which is over 70 million dollars, much more than the import cost. 44 million is the cost pegged by HAL critics. When CAG finally pulls...

Did the Raptor replace the P-51 squadrons?

40 vs 14 is not a generational difference. "Generation" is nothing more than a subjective word. In the end its all about a platform's capabilities w.r.t its cost.

Type - Cost in USD Millions MiG-21 FL - 2.01 MiG-21 Bis - 4.04 MiG-23 BN - 8.88 MiG-29B - 14.78 Jaguar IS - 29.42 Jaguar IB - 25.53 Mirage 2000H - 40.45 *Based on CAG Report on Defence 2008 adjusted to 2014 Inflation and Exchange Rate Figures 40 million vs 14 million.. Sigh..... 4...

Its a disgrace having people with Indian and a foreign flag side by side underneath their name. These people are not Indians and should never be treated as one. Extremely greedy, selfish and polluted by a sleazy foreign culture, is what i can describe after my interactions with scores of them in...

What a fag! Both Sardesai and Modi should be put in a room and set alight. Stupidity everywhere!!

wow.. and 4000 posts no less. read on the factors which affect rcs. signing out..

RCS does not mean it cannot be annulled. A larger plane carries, or can carry more jammers. and has a larger radar. Agree.. rafale needs a burial.