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  1. PAFAce

    Visit of Premier Jiabao

    Just watched the welcoming ceremony on PTV. There can be no doubt that this is a big visit and that we deeply value China's alliance. A 21 Gun salute, JF-17 fly-by, fighter escort, Guard of Honor Inspection, the whole nine yards. Not to mention that Chiefs of all three service staffs were...
  2. PAFAce

    67% want military operation in North Waziristan: poll

    fatman, I can't thank you enough for this. I have been looking for a survey of this type for so long, and never came across this. Brilliant stuff. Here's where you can find the full report: http://www.understandingfata.org/files/Understanding-FATA-Vol-IV.pdf Edit I wish they would have asked...
  3. PAFAce

    Public Opinion in Pakistan’s Tribal Regions

    fatman, I can't thank you enough for this. I have been looking for a survey of this type for so long, and never came across this. Brilliant stuff. Here's where you can find the full report: http://www.understandingfata.org/files/Understanding-FATA-Vol-IV.pdf Edit I wish they would have asked...
  4. PAFAce

    Pakistan Keen To Purchase F-16 Fleet From Norway: Mukhtar

    There is no such thing as a defensive Air Force. It's like calling a sword or a machine gun a defensive weapon. It's defensive capabilities are simply a result of its offensive force. I think a better phrase would be minimum deterrence. Minimum deterrence is not a choice or an option, it is a...
  5. PAFAce

    The LionHeart strikes again

    I watched the fight live on HBO. He was winning clearly until the 10th round, but took a beating after that. Marcos Maidana is a beast. Tremendous fight, Fight of the Year material. Khan showed that his chin can take hard punches and that he has the heart of a lion, and Maidana showed he is a...
  6. PAFAce

    Possible J-XX pic?

    I remember when this clearly computer-generated J-10B picture came out way back in the day (2008 I think), many people, including yours truly, dismissed it for fan art. Then we started getting real pictures, and it turned out to be very close. So, really, every time I see something like this...
  7. PAFAce

    Pakistan Keen To Purchase F-16 Fleet From Norway: Mukhtar

    Any aircraft flown by Pakistan, even the F-7s, are most assuredly a threat to the IAF. The JF17s are purpose built to give the IAF something to think about. If that weren't the case, we would have no need to pursue them further and you would have no need for the MMRCA, PAK-FA etc. There are...
  8. PAFAce

    Pakistan Keen To Purchase F-16 Fleet From Norway: Mukhtar

    Thunder can make it rain in children's diapers and make them cry. What your point?
  9. PAFAce

    Another ‘blasphemy’ case

    The problem is not the law itself, but the application of the law. In most cases justice cannot be guaranteed as it can never be proven beyond reasonable doubt that the blasphemous actions took place. This means that this law has become a tool for people to use to oppress minorities within their...
  10. PAFAce

    What petrol costs in India, Pak, Sri Lanka

    There is actually a lot more demand for Kerosene in India than in Pakistan or anywhere else in the World. In fact, only Sub-Saharan Africa comes close in its use of Kerosene. Kerosene is used for everything from lighting to heating to cooking by 48% of Indians who have no access to...
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    Pakistan Keen To Purchase F-16 Fleet From Norway: Mukhtar

    Would certainly be the most expensive drones in the World. Far easier to work on a UCAS from scratch than modify an F-16. Plus, who said we'll have access to the source codes and hardware? Interesting question. Here's my take on it: China hasn't stopped trading with Norway due to the Nobel...
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    Pakistan Keen To Purchase F-16 Fleet From Norway: Mukhtar

    Yep. But 10 years ago was before September 11, 2001. This time around, with the last Block 52s already here and an option for 18 more, it might be easier to get the NOC. But yeah, I don't see us going for the entire fleet as well. The main question will surely be the price and time-frame. If we...
  13. PAFAce

    Pakistan Keen To Purchase F-16 Fleet From Norway: Mukhtar

    I thought the Turkish F-16s would be the ones we would go for. This Norwegian news was unexpected. I still think the PAF will pursue Turkish F-16s. Nothing wrong in going for it for the right price and within the right time-frame. I don't see much point in this if the first batch starts...
  14. PAFAce

    Z-10 & Z-19 Combat Helicopter News & Discussion

    What is the purpose of an attack helicopter that is designed to fight in the frozen mountains at the expense of performance on over regular terrain? Unless you are expecting to fight entire wars there, which doesn't fit with the Indian doctrine against either Pak or China. I would appreciate it...
  15. PAFAce

    The Great Wall of Sindh

    I don't understand, why are you guys mocking? It could be true. Chandragupta Maurya, or Sandrokottos as the Greeks knew him, ruled a vast majority of ancient India and Pakistan. He was the next "great" king in this region, after Alexander, or Sikandar. I don't know, I would want to know more...
  16. PAFAce

    T-129 helis for P.A confirmed? PM Pakistan

    They're primarily there for close-air-support purposes to support the charge of Armored formations and stop enemy Armored formations. The way the PAA uses them is inspired by a Ninja, if you will. They use the concept of nap-of-the-earth flying and utilize ground cover and distance to hide, and...
  17. PAFAce

    Tracking jf-17 information post Zuhai air show

    You misunderstood. I was simply trying to change the topic. Forget about it.
  18. PAFAce

    Pakistan in Guinness Book of World Records

    Here's one we can be truly proud of. I was doing research for a course and found this: Pakistan has the highest number and percentage of vehicles running on Natural Gas - 2,300,000 - and also the highest number of Natural Gas stations - 3,068 Source: International Association of Natural Gas...
  19. PAFAce

    Tracking jf-17 information post Zuhai air show

    Colonels in the Pakistan Army can have quite a bit of authority. That's also when you get the "red tape". Many officers with distinguished war-time or conflict-zone performances have retired as Colonels because they didn't do the required officers training courses (because of military...
  20. PAFAce

    T-129 helis for P.A confirmed? PM Pakistan

    Cobras, yes, SuperCobras, no. The T-129 was in competition with te SuperCobra, and others. If the T-129 deal is finalized, then the SuperCobra dream is over. PAA will always look for more affordable Cobras. It's the PAA's F-16. Of course, the USA could now make the SuperCobra affordable in...
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