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Unfortunately, thread turned to flame war again and the topic again hit secularism/kemalism and religion. I really wonder when we really truly understand each other? Why for some extreme secular or extreme kemalist there is no place for religious people in the army or police or judiciary system...

The original discussion was "what does faith contribute a soldier", right? I tried to explain what faith can provide for soldiers. You bought up ottoman empire and her failure. And you are saying its is because of the faith. You are totally wrong. Put this in your mind, it was not because of the...

@TurAr You are 100% right about the politicians. Unfortunately, hypocrisy is everywhere. Noone wants his beloved son to die even it means martyrdom. If they are hypocrite, it is their fault and they will pay for it. But, it is not related to faith at all. About the balance we must learn to do...

As I explained, faith can grant "determination, strength, and courage" to a soldier. What our soldier say is ''If I die, I will go to the paradise; If I get wounded, I will be Ghazi". For a faithful soldier martyrdom is the highest rank/degree for a dead person, that is why faith can play an...

First of all, you are confused. There were two main wars in the Dardanelles: naval war and ground war. During the naval war, French and British navies were defeated which I gave Seyit Onbasi as most important example of naval war. In the ground war, there were different battlegrounds. One of...

I will answer this later, I do not have time now

I got you my friend and understand your concern. However, in my opinion, allowing citizens (either in the military or police academy or somewhere else) is not encouragement of religion. I think it is the nature of secular state. Well you might say how secular state we are, it is true although...

Do you know 98% of this country is muslim? Do you know the US is a secular country and all soldiers read bible or Torah? How do you think we beat "yedi duvel" in Canakkale with our military power or with our faithful soldiers and officers? The religion gave a lot of things to soldiers in...

I think cabatli has explained a lot of times that, almost every country uses different foreign equipments which is normal. Even you produce 80-90% of your UAV it is considered "indigenous". Why do countries import such equipments rather than making themselves? The reasons may be "emergency...

Sorry guys it is turkish Türkiye'nin 'Yerli' Hayali Gerçekle?iyor! 14 Kas?m 2012 10:29

some more photos Türk silahlar

General Staff says helicopter that crashed well maintained Soldiers carry flag-covered coffins of 17 Turkish troops who were killed in a helicopter crash early Saturday in Siirt province, during a ceremony at a military air base in southeastern Turkish city of Diyarbakır on Nov. 11, 2012...

Turkish economic success dominates debates in Rome Turkish exports hit record $134.6 billion in 2011. (Photo: Today's Zaman) 12 November 2012 / SEVGİ AKARÇEŞME, ROME Turkey’s economic success dominated the debates at the 9th Turkish-Italian Forum organized by the Center for...

11 November 2012 / EMRE SONCAN , ANKARA The Turkish military is extensively restructuring itself in an attempt to increase its effectiveness in the fight against terrorism and to deter the threats of the 21st century, which vary from asymmetric threats to energy security and cyber warfare...

Thanks Cabatli for sharing these infos with us. That will be awesome to see these beautiful birds in operations :sniper:.

Edit: I searched and found, it seems we have got the source. I did not know that that is a great news. About the F-35 source codes, we insistently wanted/want the source codes of F-35s but US denied/denies all the time. US told Turkiye that they do not share the source codes even with Israel...

Are you sure about that? There was a news which was saying US is willing to give the codes of F16s to Turkiye, but it was not confirmed. Do you have any source to share with us about the codes? Edit: Nevermind, I got the answer.

@mod Why do not you create a sticky thread about the satellite? You can merge these threads so that we can discuss the issues in that thread. http://www.defence.pk/forums/turkey-defence/72449-gokturk-satellite-program-kicks-off.html...

BordoEnes, It seems you like "Pain" a lot :-)

Kurban Bayraminiz mubarek olsun arkadaslar. Bu bayramda bizler ailelerimizle ve sevdiklerimizle birlikteyken can ve mal guvenligimiz icin nobet tutan, carpisan tum asker ve polislerimizinde bayramini en icten dileklerimle kutlarim. Eid mubarek brothers. Enjoy the Eid al-Adha...