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Is PN thinking of going the AS3600 route for their JCF instead of the Istanbul class? ASFAT is one of the JCF's main contractors and the company that developed the AS3600 concept. Any respectable member, like @arslank03 @Bilal Khan (Quwa), can shed some information on it, however thread...

Use dala to threaten the own people & ..............................

@ mods ..... Please tidy up the mess around here to prevent the thread from further derailing.

It appears that you are a helpless man, so I won't bother to react so as to lower myself to your level in order to avoid taking this discussion off track. Yup, then you shouldn't be putting words in others mouth & should refrain from adding lengthy and incoherent commentary to every post that...

Let's talk about it .... @arslank03 @TOPGUN @Bilal Khan (Quwa) and others who have extensive knowledge. We apologies that a pseudo intellectual caused everything to get off track.

Your post suggests that you are a PN advisor, doesn't it? Second, the discussion of the suggested weapon package for F22Ps is derailed by your posts; it would be better to let others analyse the technical aspects and application possibilities of various weapon packages and sensor equipment.

First off, don't expect that the above-recommended armament package will cost several hundred million dollars for each ship; instead, it may end up costing at most $500 million for all four ships, which is worth the investment given the capabilities these ships will receive and will be in line...

Negative, the ships mentioned don't have enough room (landing area) to accommodate Z20Js. In my opinion, the best option is AW149 as our PAA & PAF are already operating the member of same family (AW139) hence upkeep wouldn't be a problem in this situation. Below would be ideal for our surface...

Halal Income o_O ..... what is that & what it has to do in Pakistan .... We Pakistani don't believe in such .... we just camouflaged ourselves with having beards/topis/hijabs etc etc .... but our deeds are reciprocal, don't have to go in details ... we all know the reality.

Salves can't .... Hate to accept that we (All Pakistani, either in or outside the country) are just keyboard warriors or drawing room chatters .... read below, for better understanding... https://pdf.defence.pk/threads/the-way-of-salvation.775332/

Thought to start the discussion for the said topic.... Even though we gained independence from the UK in 1947, we quickly turned into salves for our military establishment. Here is an example: "Trainers kept baby elephants bound from the beginning in the same chain that is difficult for him to...

Seeing the space on the deck (pic shared by Ghazi52), following weapons package would be ideal for upcoming MLU... 16/24 VLS - CAMM-ER (if not MR) in place of FM90 Should have 3x6 AshM (CM-302) instead of 2x4 (CM802) Replace CIWS 730 with 1130 on both sides of hanger 16 missile salvo of HHQ-10...

Due to our fragile economy, we can't afford to give such give away :p:

Amazing..... Saudi Arabia & Turkey are represented by their civil officials, with the exception of Pakistan..... We are Bloody civilians......

No but fresh "Milk" :-)

Kazakhstan Delegation @ PAC....

Indeed, with six 054A/Ps, PN will undoubtedly be in a stronger position by having 10 Tughril class (054A/Ps) rather 4 + 4 of 054A/Ps & Milgem. However, I'm curious as to why the price of the 04 Milgem (Babur) class is so high, if your claim is right.

Pakka Patwari...

This video clip is from the launch of the third Milgem on October 25, 2020. You may find the news from April 27, 2022, below, where AFSAT was selected for the design specifications, including tonnage, weapon packages, sensors etc...

can anyone update the latest status of PMSA fleet ??