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I think this is one of the very few areas where i dont agree with you. The cost of refurbishing an aircraft is significantly less than building a new airframe. For PAF they can achieve near block 3 potential from block 1 and 2 by changing out the radars of aircraft for LKF601E or Grifo if they...

Really good find! I think the big take away is that the pilots seem to live the aircraft although they seem to have very specific constructive criticisms which are likely to be addressed with continually upgrading the aircraft (most specifically wanting more powerful engine and more BVR...

I agree with @denel that the listed specs for Chinese equipment may not always be reliable. This can be for any numver of reasons from a lack of coordination between the technical and sales/pr staff to hiding the real capabilities (better or worse) from the real world. That being said, whatever...

The brochure from Leonardo shows the Track range for a fighter sized aircraft is 40-75 NM (74-139KM). The lookup detection range is 40-85NM (74-158km). It is a low powered air or liquid cooled GaN bases radar. Doesnt seem to have the range of the KLJ-7A or LKF601E but by only 12km. Furthermore...

I would highly doubt that. The grifo s had a 92km range. No way PAF would go for a 90km AESA. Especially when the KLJ-7V1 had 105 and v2 has 130km range.

Again, it will require more than just the munitions, but also the irst, and HMD/S at least. Also possiblly a dfrm.

I dont think that will be the case. Whichever radar is chosen will likely equip the whole block. With that being said, im hoping the PAF will have the $$ and foresight to upgrade all existing block 1 and 2 aircraft with LKF601E and give them the same HMD/S with upgraded munitions (pl-15 and...

Which is exactly why I posted my original question regarding the actual likelihood that Leonardo could actually get the bid. If PAF is truly satisfied with chinese equipment and weapons, then personally, I dont thinkthere is much chance if any for the Grifo E. However if PAF is disappointed or...

I dont disagree with equipping grifo on a sqn or 2, or even the entire block if the munitions and subsystem like DRFM, IRST, HMD/S etc arenall part of the package. Leonardo can deliver much of that but the munitions will require agreement from France and England in addition to Italy, and the IAF...

Kind of surprised that JF-17 is participating in exercises with USAF. The PAF must have significant confidence in it, especially if they are fielding it against F-15E. Beyond that, how cool is the pic if the F-4E sith the JF-17 taking off in the background!

As @FuturePAF comprehensively put it, there are many other issues to consider when declaring that PAF will go with radar a or b. 1. Weapons: beyond the a2a missiles, PAF has numerous strike weapons from glide bombs to ARM to AShM of chinese origin. Some are overcome by having other foreign...

Can we envision a senario where the Grifo-E would actually win the PAF tender for JF-17? My understanding is that unless italy or china capitulate on allowing the other access to their own equipment to carry out integration, its not going to happen. I dont get (with such a large order) why...

Do we know the specs of the AESA on board, and without a MAD, how effective will it be in the detection of subs.

Golden Era was Musharaffs rule? What a load. With all due respect, on what are you baseing this on? The fact that he inked a deal for F-16? Anyone in Pakistan would have done the same except would have exercises the option to buy the added 18 quickly. Not spending the money on schemes to get...

I think he means ground clearance so as to equip it with Ra'ad.

100% agreed. Infact there was even a article in the National Interest which is an American International Affairs magazine (often has anti-Pakistani and heavily pro-indian tilt), which assessed the efficacy of IN carriers and concluded that they would likely be ineffective in any full scale...

Oh i agree, but the problem is without air cover, your missile boats, a2/ad strategies go up in smoke to CBGs. You need to have a competent mutlilayered air defense at sea to protect missile boats and submarines as well as to hunt subs. I am most in favor of the Israeli approach to ships (small...

I would hope that PN doesnt get specialized ships or moves away from this concept in future acquisitions or upgrades. They should go for the smaller low cost multimission vessels. Even USN is doing this with the FFG(X). Every ship should be able to operate independently amd as a group. With...

Problem is that, as currently constituted, only the 054A can defend themselves against significant attacks. The F-22P badly need improved self protection capabilities as will milgem if it is standard Ada.

Milgem deal was signed within the last 2 years. The MILGEM deal outside of the the acquisition of rights to the design, is for ships with very specific (ie sub hunting) role. They will likely not servive a pitched battle with IN without support of the Type 054A covering it because of its minimal...