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    Should BD buy the Japanese P-1 MPA aircraft

    Acquisition costs can be dealt with if Japan offers a line of credit, but Bangladesh will need to be careful about long-term support costs. At this time, the P-1 is basically only in use with Japan, and it isn't an inherently cheap system. If Japan can't or won't scale, then Bangladesh may be...
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    Pak Navy shows interest in Umkhonto (Surface-to-air Missile System)

    For AShM one needs a top quality PDMS, such as the RAM. If not that, then FL-3000.
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    Pakistan in talks for 4 Ada Class Corvettes, T-129 Helicopters & modernization of agosta fleet

    But @cabatli_53 isn't the Ada-class large enough to house 8 or 16 small-VLS cells - like Umkhonto or Hisar?
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    Pakistan in talks for 4 Ada Class Corvettes, T-129 Helicopters & modernization of agosta fleet

    Could just be a loan for a portion of the deal, with the rest coming via a deposit from Pakistan. May also be the cost of just the hulls and propulsion, with the sensors, electronics and weapons being sourced separately.
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    Pakistan in talks for 4 Ada Class Corvettes, T-129 Helicopters & modernization of agosta fleet

    I hope we get to see the Havelsan and Aselsan subsystems on the eight Chinese submarines we have on order as well. Would make for excellent synergy.
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    Pakistan Army's T-129 ATAK Helicopter Deal | Updates & Discussions.

    I think they'll be evaluating all options and upgrade routes thoroughly. If the Chinese come up with a Z-10 with a marked engine improvement, then things will swing back that way. If the Turks can put an alternative turboshaft in the pipeline (JV w/Rolls Royce?), then it can swing their way.
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    Pakistan in talks for 4 Ada Class Corvettes, T-129 Helicopters & modernization of agosta fleet

    I was referring to the design. Should the PN decide to stick with the MILGEM, it can hop onto Turkey's efforts to scale the design up into a light frigate. So, it'd be 4 corvettes in the medium-term, maybe 4 TF-100 frigates after 2020, etc. At the end of the day, the F-22P is a descendant of the...
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    Pakistan in talks for 4 Ada Class Corvettes, T-129 Helicopters & modernization of agosta fleet

    Turkey is willing to offer a loan, that could be a factor. Our credit limit with China may not be as deep right now considering we agreed to put $4-5bn down on 8 submarines (and God knows how much on JF-17).
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    Pakistan in talks for 4 Ada Class Corvettes, T-129 Helicopters & modernization of agosta fleet

    The MILGEM is a newer design, one with evident upgrade and development potential (as seen with the I-Class frigate program). There could also be something in relation to operational cost, but that's speculation on my part. Regarding the Turkish defence minister's statements about the T-129, how...
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    Pakistan Navy | News & Discussions.

    Pakistan looking to get Turkey to upgrade its Agosta 90B submarines In conjunction with talks for Ada-class corvettes and T-129 attack helicopters, Pakistan is in discussions with Turkey to upgrade the Pakistan Navy’s three Agosta 90B (Khalid-class) air-independent propulsion (AIP) powered...
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    Pakistan Army's T-129 ATAK Helicopter Deal | Updates & Discussions.

    Pakistan is evaluating the TAI T-129 attack helicopter The Turkish defence minister’s visit to Pakistan has been fairly eventful. In addition to Pakistan’s request for four Ada-class corvettes and upgrades for its Agosta 90B submarines, the Pakistan Army is officially evaluating the Turkish...
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    Pak Navy shows interest in Umkhonto (Surface-to-air Missile System)

    Is Pakistan interested in the Umkhonto SAM? Last week, the Chief of Naval Staff of the Pakistan Navy, Admiral Muhammad Zakaullah, made an official visit to South Africa. In addition to meeting his counterparts in the South African Navy and discussing matters of mutual interest (such as an...
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    Pakistan in talks for 4 Ada Class Corvettes, T-129 Helicopters & modernization of agosta fleet

    http://quwa.org/2016/06/04/pakistan-eyeing-four-milgem-corvettes/ Pakistan eyeing four MILGEM corvettes Turkey’s new defence minister, Fikri Işık , visited Pakistan on Friday and informed the media that a number big-ticket programs are underway between the two countries. In fact, Turkey and...
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    Pak Navy shows interest in Umkhonto (Surface-to-air Missile System)

    @313baberali if you don't mind me asking, where did you find the Pak Navy interest in Umkhonto-IR-ER bit? Is it a South African newspaper?
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    Pak Navy shows interest in Umkhonto (Surface-to-air Missile System)

    It's an old school Archer. Antiquated by today's standards, but Airbus DS' optronics branch is in South Africa. They have the capacity to develop a modern HMD/S, but if they are willing, Pakistan would likely have to fund its development.
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    General Raheel Shareef in front of Altay Tank

    I hope you're asking about the Sharif with the money, not the one with the uniform :D
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    Complete List of MRAPs, APCs & IFVs used by Pakistan Military

    Pakistan is (or at least was) looking to produce the NORINCO VN-1 under license.
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    NEXT STEPS FOR PAC AND THE JF-17 THUNDER

    Depends on the fighter. All AESA radars need room to carry cooling equipment and a larger power supply, so if the fighter doesn't have the space already, some structural work will be necessary. As the PAF looks at its options, it will examine how well each vendor has managed in terms of...
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    Pakistan's Airborne Early Warning and Control Aircrafts

    Could also be Pakistan. A genuinely credible member - @Bilal Khan 777 - claimed that the PAF was working on replacing the Erieye it lost in 2012. It had secured the Saab 2000 it'll use, so it may now be ordering the Erieye system. As to why Sweden wouldn't disclose the name; in Pakistan's case...
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    NEXT STEPS FOR PAC AND THE JF-17 THUNDER

    Yep the Raven and Vixen look very similar, it could just be that the Raven was re-branded for the NG. Spotting the Skyward IRST integration to the Raven was a great catch @Blue Marlin
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