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You are explaining the situation by directly calling me as obsolete, while your believe some "Jf17" driver. Insulting, to say the least. Obviously, your stardom cannot be challenged, not even by an old retired soldier. Carry on. Sell your giraffes and ostriches to unsuspecting readers of this forum.

Mr. Wind Jammer, If you are trying to insult me, you have succeeded. I am sorry that I disagreed with your highness, as perhaps nobody can disagree with you here, or your "sources." Good luck. I will keep my distance from you sir. Sorry I offended you.

Pilots know their radars, as they talk to controllers day and night. A pilot in the field will not mistake or confuse a MPDR-45 for Giraffe, and then MPDR-90. You are probably talking to an Admin Groundia.

No, i am just the other guy now. (Chuckles).

You know, yet you copy paste 80's information? PAF AD upgrades are public knowledge, and there are videos on it.

Yes, it may as well be a Giraffe or whatever you call it.

At least this one was incorrect information. Its an MPDR 45, first it was called Giraffe, then MPDR 90, then some other cock a bull story. Either speak the truth or don't speak at all.

PAF upgraded the CRCs to MCC and GMCC concept. We have overlapping coverage of the whole border. The capability you describe and copy paste from the Internet we had as result of Project Crystal in 1977. Today, we have something much more sophisticated.

MPDR 45 and MPDR 90 are similar? You can believe that. Whatever description you have been bfed, I will not elaborate, but I maintain that the pilot is an idiot, and he is making a fool of you and your audience here. 2D radars don't have height finder capability. 2D radars get IFF return or mode...

The echo reduction is undertaken by sound absorbent materials, and using the SVP in your favour. Rest you can keep talking emotional stuff and your ideas which are not practically implemented by any serious submarine builder around the world due to practical implications and not theoretical studies.

You make up stuff as you go along? Faceted shapes would never be practical underwater. its not about speed, but endurance, and underwater noise. What works in air doesn't work underwater. Please refrain from conjecture, from your imaginary low cost submarines, to fictional UUVs, to faceted...

This is not an MPDR 90. This is MPDR 45. The pilot is an idiot. This is a MPDR-45, originally. Maybe the upgrade version has more range, but this is NOT an MPDR-90

The best place for solid state batteries is outside the pressure hull of the submarine, in sealed containers, like what has been practiced on deep submergence vehicles for decades. While prices may seem to be falling for everything, marinating and military marine is never cheap, lets alone...

With the high speed progress new solid state batteries (Li Ion just being one fo the technologies), the submarines of the future will have lot more power density per sqm than ever available before. This means much higher indiscretion rate. The conventional and swats of the future, 500-2000 tons...

There is no evidence to suggest that Vipers have any geographic kill switch. It has been thoroughly tested and simulated. Pakistan has full capability to modify mission computers, but it does not do so as its not required. War changed drastically with the successful induction of long range...

This is not Giraffe, which are/were used by Army AD. This is an MPDR45. Your data on Giraffe maybe wrong.

I agree. But indigenous development could take a long time. PN may consider acquiring the technology is available from somewhere. This program looks like it will remain a dream only.

Operational BVR AD units right on the border. From dream to reality.

Fishing boat, at best. We do not have a submarine design or building program yet. This is at best a fishing boat, or some kind of mockup for firefighting, rusting out on the open jetty.

SSS: Safe Store Separation. The Pylon, length, distance, and stores angle is defined by Strict algorithms learned over thousands of events and millions of hours of simulation. Visual aesthetics don't define aircraft design.