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First there were 3 pilots captured, then it was one. First there were no F-16s used but now we know. Then there was the fabricated video of pilot Abhinandan. Right from Kargil to this present incident Pakistan Army has been always caught pants down lying. And the most important point- India has...

Factually wrong. Not a single official statement has come out denying the statements made by IAF.

Idiot, look at the report first from NYT and then look at the name of the writer. I know it's too much for a madrassa educated guy like you, but atleast give it a try.

From the same writer. Now we know there were two jets which went down, so which was the other jet? The dog fight took place in Pakistani airspace and as mentioned by another poster in another thread, in no way the pilots or the wreakage would have landed in India due to the strong Westerly winds.

Pilots dress does not have either the name of the pilot (only a short form of it may be there, in case of Abhinandan it was Abhi), neither it has the country flag

Is that same video which has 15 cuts in 90 secs? Look at the video again, you guys suck at video editing.

Where is the original report from CNN?

Most crucial part is Pakistan is yet to officially state that it has lost no aircrafts on that day. I understand DG ISPR need not have to comment on every news which Indian media states, but here we have claimed "officially" that IAF has downed one fighter jet of the PAF, atleast deny that. ISPR...

Hey, I just stumbled upon this tweet and shared it here for confirmation since my net was slow. I agree this is no proof, most probably the building is some Govt office or a hotel far away from the strike area. You are right, the later image seems .like an old one taken while the building was...

I am using my mobile, so can't see your nationality, so don't know if that statement was sarcastically made. But like seriously, if anyone can check the co-ordinates to see if these are actual images that would be great. I am using a mobile with a pathetic net speed, so sadly I am unable to do...

Can anybody verify this. Could be fake though, or some different location.

But it wasn't just 4 miles, was it? KPK isn't just 4 miles away from Indian border.

Maybe some other jet. MEA didn't mention F-16 either. Was there a complete rejection that no plane was brought down?

Good point, not a single statement from ISPR rejecting the claim

Engagement took place in Pakistan airspace. Wreakage will be at ur side

Evidence? Dude I stay 1000s of miles away from the conflict zone. I am just referring to the official statements of both the countries. Apart from the claims of jets brought down, there is no or lil descripency between what ISPR and MEA said. PAF didn't cross loc-Fact, IAF crossed loc-Fact. IAF...

Not as per my Govt's official statement.

Use common sense, how did two pilots captured suddenly become one? Both IK and PAF mentioned that the Indian jets we're engaged on Pakistani airspace. Where is the pics of other jet then? Multiply sources and eye wetneses have confirmed a plane going down in LAM valley, where is it?

So, IAF entered PAF twice in two days. PAF yet to cross loc.

PAF didn't cross loc - ur ISPR (and Indian Govt official statement), it released bombs (no proof needed). No damage due to it (ISPR silent on that issue, Indian MEA stated no damage). Mig 21 chased the PAF jets (Both ISPR and Indian MEA). One jet lost by IAF and PAF (Indian official statement)...