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yes this not there when Saif was inducted initially. interesting!

you might have hit the nail on the head!!! On a serious note, IF J-10s are coming they can not be housed at Jacobabad due to US Sensitivities. So another airbase in the vicinity of J'abad to cover Southern Punjab and North & Central Sindh and western approaches but housing the Chinese Dragon...

I dont think Jacobabad is being abandoned any time soon. However, a new airbase is being setup altogether.

because we don't have the money! All the Chinese ships have been ordered with the help Chinese loans that need to be paid in the end. A concept, I am afraid, very few Pakistanis comprehend.

The LM Turbines were on order for more than one year, it is on SIPRI report too. So where did the CNS come up with CODAD...strange.

As far as I know Jinnah Class is the definitive shape of Milgem Program as opted by Pakistan. All the four corvettes will be configure to Jinnah class specs. All four boats will be Jinnah Class boats with VLS, HQ-16, Harbah or Supersonic ASCM, Korkut CIWS. I was not aware of any 2 x Frigate...

Thank you for the images. Wonderful find and memories. P-47 entered RAF service in 1943 and US service in 1942. If they are P-47's then this pic is of around 1943. They might be Brewster Buffalo F2A which were purchase by the British from the Americans to stave of early aircraft shortages in...

The original plans for P3C were for 12 ship fleet.

It would be interesting to see what naming regime is used for Type 54 AP. Weapons or Zulfiqar has already taken up by Zulfiqar Class F-22 type frigates. Yarmook or battle class have already been allotted to the Corvettes. The two remaining Amzon's are named after a combo of General and...

Do we have a choice???

The scenario built by PF can be flawed such as towed sonar would have to be reeled -in once the boat starts to speed up etc, however, the question remains.... if a sub captain knows that the onboard ASW weapons suit does not have anything longer ranged than 20 KM at best, he has more room to...

both are available in Pakistan.

He was comparing it with older gen PLAN Frigates, the Type 54A

No boomer! They will have SLCM launch capability which is what we require for precision strike to take out coastal naval comms, ports, & radar installations. Nuclear second strike through SLCM's can be achieved. The major Nuclear strike capability will be through land based mobile launchers...

Add those PIA ATR to PN fleet (Some of those can be used to replace Britten-Norman Defenders in MSA Service) and establish base overhaul facility using PIA Engineering tool/jigs/fixtures, manuals, experience training and spares. Payments can be made on a pay as you use basis.

MTU Diesel engines are already procured. LM Turbines already ordered and thee is no issue with their export to Turkey. The configuration seems to be CODAG or CODOG since LM2500 is a gas turbine engine. My guess would be CODOG since this configuration requires a less complex gearbox.

They have similar type of material that is found in our neck of woods....emotionally charged, jingoistic and far removed from reality!!!!

There is no such thing as Z-10 Block-I only Z-10ME is out there which is an upgraded and uprated version of Z-10.

4 F22P Light Frigates 4+(2) Type 54A & X Frigates (Yet to be designated sub class) That is where the Chinese Surface Platform induction ends 4 Milgem Class Light Frigates (Or re-designated as Jinnah Class Flight 1) 4 Jinnah Class Frigates (Made in Pakistan versions of Milgem design that will...

Seems like a re-engined Turbo DHC-2T Beaver (De Heviland)