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Exactly! And this is what they don't seem to be willing to talk about: IAF/PAF in 2025: LCA 123- JF-17 150+ MiG-29UPG 70- F-16 80 Mirage 2000 50- Mirage V 90 Jaguar DARIN III 60- Mirage III 90 Rafale F3R+ 90+ - ?? Su-30MKI 300+ - ?? FGFA 20- ?? So on quantity and quality the PAF is utterly...

58% shares in what? CAC? PAC?

Wasn't it already designated as such?

Why are you posting pictures of the CAC FC-1?

Are you serious? The LCA is the LOWEST rung in the IAF meant to be used for air policing and rear-guard duties and still is more impressive than even your Blk.3 JF-17. Who is claiming it is superior to the MKI or Rafale? The sad reality you have to come to terms with is that EVERY fighter in...

Ah, so I just have to take your word for it? You can't provide any objective criteria? Anyone that knows about these things agrees on that but in your mind the suped up MiG-21 aka JF-17 is magically superior to it.......

So what sensors and weapons will the JF-17 carry that will allow it to be superior to one of the world's finest A2A fighters? Another delusion I suppose.

And India wishes the same about the JF-17, oh wait, you guys are actually making that a reality whilst India is also inducting MKIs and Rafales :woot::woot::woot::woot:

"Dumb" because I refuse to accept your ill-crafted lies? I'm not even sure you know what the word 'dumb' means and yet you use it a lot.....

You are so tedious, even the level of trolling on PDF is deteriorating. God help your country if you are its future.....

How insightful........ So by what measure will the JF-17 "match" the MKI? Weapons? Sensors?

You paid for them, it's your right to use them as you like isn't it? Just like India will use its AH-64Es in a war against Pakistan.....

Where are these Jaguars other than in the minds of that dumb reporter........

One nation has flag on the moon another has a moon on their flag......

The IAF wouldn't accept anything as bodged as this:

Your obsession with an arbitary certification that has little material impact on the actual production or operationalisation of the LCA is.......?

What's there to "cry" about? You're adding capabilities the LCA has had for over a decade, nice job.

- What AESA? LCA will have that (EL/M-2052/Uttam) - What HMD? LCA has already got that (DASH-III/TARGO-2) - You haven't integrated a LDP yet? LCA has already got that (LITENING G3/4) - HOBS? LCA has already got that (R-73E and now integrating Python-V) When is the Blk.3 meant to be ready?

What AESA will it have? You guys haven't even integrated HMD on it yet! The JF-17 had an incredibly limited development plan, no wonder it was in service a while ago.

Derby Mk.3> SD-10 EL/M-2032>KLJ-7 IAF C4I>PAF C4I The LCA will even have AESA radar by 2019-20, not even the Blk.3 JF-17 will have AESA radar