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You are right, but engine (and radar) are the core. No engine = no independance. China industry remains mainly a copy and paste one. J10 = inspired by Lavi. J20 = strange bird. A stop gap for me, not more. J31 is the first and only really impressive bird for me so far.

They failed in Afghanistan, but They were the first to see a war coming between russia and ukraine.....

France is ahead of China. China is always struggling just to copy russian engines. See their last liner : made aroung west engine. So for me : USA > France = UK > Russia (due to short longevity) > China. Yes but lower longevity and more fuel gredy (because lower temperature in turbine)

Missile not deliverd so far in Indonesia, but I agree, it is an export deal.

Everywhere ? Far away FOC status......

France behind GB? you are pulling our leg Bro ! Your latest jet, built with 3 other european country, is a technical and export failure. France Alone sell more M2000 than Tornado and more Rafale (it's even not the end) than EF2000. About radar : we are ahead than you at least 15 years (AESA)...

Sure that it can't be the GB case, as you are becoming the latest US state.

There was no riot because of pension Bro. Only some 3rd generation migrants sons that used the death of a young refusing to halt to police order to stole and put fire on their brothers and sisters school. Same situation than in GB, no? It is so impressive that it clinch no export deal.

From 300 to 20000 ! the CIA would have inform the US president. I've read some months ago that China target is 2000 nukes. Far enough to erase USA and India together.

Patriot is not made for that. Maybe a second or third rank capacity....

The USA has so many warheads that even if 20% are on maintenance (an incredible high rate), the rest is enough to destroy China, Russia and North Korea nearly 3 times, with some others remaining for Iran... So it's not an issue. And never forget who invented A and H bomb.... You aren't on par...

NO. But we are ready to help Greece in case of. Even if it comes from a supposed friend and member of NATO.

India asked an improvement on it to start higher and colder. So M88 was probably the best or one of the best, but not perfect. SH18 is not so nice : Only 2 export customers : very surprising for a US jet. SH18 loose to Rafale M in the indian stop gap contest. IAF and IN are not so keen to...

Is it a real pic or a photoshop one ? First time I see a Rafale flying with 8 AAM. It was on the agenda, but not ready so far.

??? Most indicate 300, with a recent production increase to reach 1000 in a near future.

Kim is in russia today. Russia and NK will tighten their links. Russia may need some shells for Ukrainia, and NK need some modern planes....

Greece bankrupt is on their back. Turkish one is your future.

Yes, for bankrupt.

The same network centric warfare used by russia in ukraine ? You are pulling our leg Bro.... :cheesy: