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The betrayal has been going on since (at least) the days of Prime Minister Liaquat Ali Khan.

The ‘moral implications’ were that the Pakistani Fauj overthrew a democratically elected government and carried out (and is still carrying out) a fascist crackdown against the most popular political party in Pakistan. The financial implications of the coup carried out by the fascist Fauj far...

And now we have the wonderful Ukrainian President, Zelensky, threatening countries that are hosting millions of Ukrainian refugees with terrorism, if we don’t continue funneling hundreds of billions of dollars to fund this endless war...

Another instance of what? Do you have a problem with Pakistanis calling the fascist Army Junta what it actually is?

The US and Ukrainian government played their own role in stoking Russian concerns. The US wouldn’t tolerate Mexico becoming a vassal of Russia or China either. And so what if Russia wants more Ukrainian territory? Let the Ukrainians bog the Russians down on their own dime. The US/NATO didn’t...

Stoking religious hatred by making an argument along the lines of “Us kay dost kay chacha kay bhateejay kay wakeel nay X banday Ko represent kia is absurd. This hatred will not be allowed on this forum, though obviously the PMLN loves it. Warnings will be issued on further threads and posts...

How does any of that justify spending taxpayer money on this particular senseless and endless war that looks like another money and body pit with a quarter million casualties already and increasing global economic impact? The Ukrainian conflict was never going to be a world war and ‘precedents’...

Its not just the elections. Its also the recent bills that the President said he did not sign that undermine fundamental rights and that the Military wants to use to persecute dissenters. The President has the ability to issue pardons, correct? So what happens if the fascist military Junta...

Great, and you can be one less troll Indian commenting on Pakistani issues. Should have known better than to engage with you. Leopard and spots and all

Their choice to keep fighting then - they should do it on their own dime.

A sure sign of someone losing an argument - Resort to personal attacks. Its not my fault that the US military escalation in Ukraine is indefensible. You’re done on this thread for a while.

That is the most troubling part of this situation. For a long time we assumed that the Army leadership always had the best interests of the country at heart and good intentions. Unfortunately, its increasingly becoming clear that the Army leadership does not care about the country or citizens...

A lot of countries do that to dissenters, spies, enemies etc. The Israelis did that and the US took it a step further and took out a top Iranian general, dis they not. So lets not pretend thats some kind of ‘massive, existential threat to NATO countries’. There are many, many magnitudes more...

Oh, but I do understand that this war is about politics. However, as a responsible citizen, I’m going to voice my opposition to the war precisely for that reason, and use my tiny little bully pulpit in this insignificant corner of the WWW. I might be an idealist, but change doesn’t come from...

1) NATO can decide to end military and financial support. The Ukrainians can decide at that point what decision they want to make. A negotiated end to the current conflict resulting in a smaller, de-militarized Ukrainian State OR continued war without NATO support. 2) If Ukraine doesn’t want to...

Continued mainstream media controls by the Army. Details on how to limit coverage of public protests and hide them towards the end of news bulletins etc. One step away from Iranian style controls/bans on social media since that’s where you’ll find most of the public seething with anger.

And what if it does? What do you believe would happen if Russia gets the territory it wants, Ukraine is reduced to a rump State and there is an international agreement that Ukraine will stay neutral and not be used to house NATO forces or build up its military?

I’m not suggesting that the US become ‘inward looking’, what I am contesting is the argument that stoking wars, such as this one in Ukraine, is tied to prosperity, growth and maintaining influence. Most of tbe EU was reluctant to get involved in this war, and would not have without the US...

(1) Mortal Enemy - thats a hangover from the Cold War mindset, and no longer justifiable. Outside of Ukraine, and prior to the Ukrainian conflict, Russia was increasingly building economic ties with the EU and the rest of the world, especially with regards to provision of natural resources. So...

To what end? What actual threat did Russia pose to NATO, prior to the Ukraine war, that justifies the (likely) trillions in global economic costs, hundreds of thousands dead, and the domestic opportunity cost for NATO (US especially)?