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A cruise missile at night would have sounded like a jet to any layman, given the use of turbine. No?

Slat roof or not, modern top attack ATGMs are running through Russian armor.

I believe F-16 folks crossed the rubicon first, JF should be following it soon after.

Hey, we can always discuss the rate a certain DGMO charged for services rendered to a foreign intelligence agency as well. And completely agreed with the point you’re making.

I do think that Block 70s were a possibility before PAF went for the J10s, certainly not after it. This is just my opinion. PAF made the call to change the strategic direction of their acquisition program, for a good reason. They've pretty much given up on getting modern F-16s, unless something...

Ukrainians keep asking the West to implement an NFZ or to send them more aircraft - a big ask for a country that has in at least news media taken out half the applied Russian inventory. That in itself says a lot.

J10C provides baseline info on Chinese tech, Pakistan will not open the doorway to access of Chinese systems to the West. It's not going to happen. Simple. Everything else is just conjuncture. I mean they literally are not even using MB seats on the type, so as to keep access restricted. What...

Grey listing has a lot of CTF/AML requirements centric consequences. If you are operating any business out of UAE, you will feel the documentary pinch.

Where's the evidence that this was even 800KM?

I’m fairly sure Chinese have asked for guarantees for this exact scenario to not take place. They’ve shared their front line tech with Pak, in this instance.

So I’m guessing it’s a National Guard Sqn again? Not actually USAF?

Hey, in this instance, I hope they set up a factory of it and even start exporting it after fulfilling internal demand for this Koolaid.. =P

Yes, they baited us with WS-10 then at the last moment before take off switched to AL-31Fs engines. We just found out. *horror* Exactly. There’s nothing stopping them from upgrading these jets, getting more, without the fear of sanctions. I doubt PAF has enjoyed this flexibility since forever.

I don't get some folks. When there was first talk of Pak getting J10Cs, the issue turned to it having an inferior engine and no IRST. When both of these were confirmed to be not true, then the discussion turned to the aircraft not having the aerial refueling probe. When that was finally shown in...

Yep, just didn’t want to say it out loud. Given the other side’s weapons, Pakistani armor will face a very tough time.

280 armored vehicles (Tanks and IFVs) taken out by 300 Javelins fired. Armor will have a very hard job at hand in next indo-pak conflict.

Nah! Doubt it very much, Pak is pretty much in the Chinese camp now.

US establishment suddenly remembering a nation that went toe to toe with the Soviets at the height of their power.. on their behalf and well, won the damned thing. Trying to find a Pakistan on NATO territory. =)...

Given US demands to take sides on Russia, everyone's got a price tag. =)