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first of all he has a point about that destroyed AMRAAM wreckage shown in TV....... Second, watch that video i shared, the civilian eye witness is clearly telling the reported it was of a jet that saw crashing NOT OF HELICOPTER! watch it and apni tassali bhi kar lo. Goodbye.

then what was that IR video we all saw, even ACE of PAF's facebook page had shared it.

in fact their own media had conformed the downing of a Su30MKI.......their famous and credible journalist Rahul Kanwal himself had reported it.

he is right buddy, he is a professional fighter pilot of PAF, has i said, yr still new here so u might not know about people who r members here both him and Hodor are PAF pilots.

not even that IR video from Sniper pod of that F16B? common man we all who r connected to PAF had seen that, or if not that, then at least those radar signals or the radar screen shots from the cockpit of that F16B can be shared.

hey! dont give silly arguments buddy, we all have seen the wreckage of that su30 burning in the first page of this thread i shared, where the eye witness clearly is saying that it was a fighter jet not a helicopter he saw coming down and crashing......it crashed in the makra village of IOK...

hey! this is the matter of us Pakistanis being discussed in our own Pakistan defence forum, u being a foreigner has no right to get in our own internal matters.......so buzz off!

buddy we arnt talking about abt some christian russia who always had time tested relations with india since colds war era, those slavic they dont know much about Pakistan either nor about Asia and and the asian mentality and psyche. They r actually a European white race who care about themselves...

but internationally nobody does, specially the world media.

hahaha buddy i dont think yr completely aware of the things we are talking about, it was done for the pan islamic ideology, Study about the khilafat movement among the indian muslims...... @Horus @Qutb-ud-din Aybak tell him.... @Hakikat ve Hikmet tell him about the khilafat movement and the...

then what this means for the future of pak indo relations? considering that our own sons had died fighting for you and for yr liberation war against the dutch......even though there is hardly any benefit Pakistan gets from indonesia at all. Secondly we train the indo forces to this day! yr...

KID! FIRST OF ALL NEVER QUOTE ME UNNECESSARY or else im gonna report yr *** asap! second of all, we didnt sold myanmar jf17 nor do myanmar jf17 has anything to do with ummah, kashmir or palestine issue! These two r the issues which r the barrier of the rise of the Asiatic Countries and for the...

the World is also realizing that Pakistan doesnt want to solve Kashmir issue, which by the way is the REAL TRUTH! This kayani is on record saying that we need to get out of kashmir, and now this bajwa and his PTI has done deal with india in the name of peace frankly! The lukewarm response is...

yeah but PAF also need to present a definite proof too which can be shared with international audience.

because it was a Su30 wreckage watch the video i shared in page #1

question is, what ever they doing and going during a military conflict to begin with?

didnt we had them? aka those captured pilots? And PAF also failed to give a definitive proof of that Su30 downing, all we have is a mere hearsay and connect the dots theories...... Those tall claims of Videos of these two birds downing as well as no radar, IR signatures being shared as well...

no matter how hard u bangladeshis praise india, its still yr big brother and it will never like u guys develop more faster then itself, just as today BD economy is growing faster then india itself........... yr rise is disturbing their mojo......

if so, then what will be the future of Pak Russian relations? so what does that tells u about the future of relations with these countries?

exactly @Windjammer